Sour Mash

Yet another example of their misplaced anger and bitterness, weird.

Don't know why everyone is focusing on Guly's miss yesterday. We threw away that win because we lacked leadership out there, we got scared and we weren't able to retain possession against 10 men and control the game at all.

Really? So the only other one you can think of is Blackpool, 4 years ago - which sort of proves my point.

Having said that, despite their fans being loud, they carried on the theme of having a chip on their shoulder as a hard done by side with the authorities against them, crying about every decision from the officials.

To be fair, I've done every away game for the last few years and they're probably the best we've seen that I can think of.

Think we've seen better games from him, he struggled today at times with distribution. Although taking into consideration he was out of position, on his unfavoured side, he did very well.

Don't think our support today was a patch on the 2nd half at Fulham. Stoke were the loudest opposition fans we've seen this season.

Not sure what that means? No-one is saying we have a divine right to do so. And pretty much every team that has ever been promoted to the Premier League have at least competed at this level apart from a couple of obvious exceptions.

Yes it was a wonder-strike, but why did he get the chance to strike it? Because we kept backing off, kept giving them opportunities to do exactly what they want. I agree we'll stay up, but it'll be bloody tight.

You 100% sure it was a sitter? Not had the chance to see a replay yet, but watching it in real time, thought it came to him at an awkward height and pace on his wrong foot. Decent chance yes, not sure yet if it could be classed as a "sitter".

Clyne must have been injured, guess Ramirez wasn't though, to be fair we didn't miss either too much.

Very frustrating game. To get 3-1 up against 10 men, we let ourselves be bullied by a 10 man Stoke team that had shown very little quality. We lacked a leader out there, no-one stepped up and took control. Furthermore, after all the fuss about our passing football, how many passes did we string together against a 10 man Stoke side? Very few. Most frustrating thing, I thought Stoke were terrible, forget all the comparisons with West Ham etc, I haven't seen a team play that level of basic long ball, percentage, win corners and throw in football since watching Sheff utd or Wimbledon in the early mid 90s, combined with moaning and abusing the ref for anything that went against them, proper poxy small time club and it's very rare for me to comment on another club like that.

I'm quite happy with our current CB partnership. He'd have to be really first class to make it worthwhile breaking up our current pairing.

Don't think anyone is saying we're a bad side. Just comes back to poorly invested funding in the summer, not getting a Prem class 'keeper etc.

Why would you have to overhaul a League One squad in one window? We've had three transfer windows since we were in League one.

Just seen on twitter a new Saints fanzine being launched. Anyone know much about it? Haven't seen it mentioned on any forum. Hopefully it's similar in style to the old 80s/90s 'zines.

The financial fair play laws are going to make it harder for "smaller" teams to complete with the big clubs, not easier.

I can't see us bringing in a CB. How many are going to be available/affordable in Jan that would be an improvement on Fonte or Yoshida. Or a CB that would be happy to be on the bench, but is actually better than Hooiveld? Can't see it. To be honest I can't see us bringing in much in January.

Ha, how much misplaced anger and bitterness can they fit on that thread!

Think you're right to be fair. Regardless, we didn't score.

If, in the summer, you made good, well balanced arguments for an improvement in our goal keeping department and was called an idiot than that is certainly unfortunate. However, the Wigan and Sunderland games we didn't even score (or look like we'd score), so those poor results can't be pinned purely to our goal keeping department.

We're now going to see our results at home to Fulham, Swansea, Norwich, Wigan and Sunderland come back to bite us.

Cheers, where does it say "we must sit in our seats at PL matches"?

Which law is that?

There is no reason why how one club chooses to enforce it's ground regulations should effect what happens at another club.