Sour Mash

You said "they were arrested and Prosecuted " Where has it been stated or confirmed that they have been prosecuted?

They weren't arrested. As I said, you're making stuff up.

None of these Saints fans were arrested or charged full stop. Stop making stuff up.

Showing you don't understand what's happened or know what you're talking about. Another person filling up these pages with stuff they make up in their own head.

They can be arrested and charged and sent back to Holland. Happens to plenty of people and plenty of people are arrested when the crime happens. Not wait until 6 months after the event, not get any criminal conviction at all, but a nice bit of PR pre-Euros. Football Policing is a ridiculously large, cosy industry now, huge budgets with hardly any arrests/trouble.

If what they did was so wrong, why weren't they arrested and charged?

Its the old "spitting in women's faces", up there with beating up the disabled and young children. Never seen it happen once.

Stick up all the accounts from Vittesse Arnhem fans being attacked and threatened by Saints fans, at either game?

So you had a run in with a few of them, therefore they're all idiots/mugs. Good logic there.

That's irrelevant. The idea of not being allowed to leave the country for a third of the year, despite not being convicted of a crime is insane from a basic human rights point of view. Only happens to football fans, probably would have got more lenient treatment if they'd nipped off to join Isis for a couple of months!

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/42123/six-saints-fans-banned-after-trouble-in-arnhem Illingworth gets it pretty spot on.

Absolute joke, all done for the approaching Euros.

Will be interesting to see what happens to Wanyama. I can't see a properly big, Champions League club coming in for him. And he's slowly, but surely burnt his bridges with us. I know they've got Eric Dier in good form now, but wouldn't surprise me to see Spurs coming in with a very low bid for him.

I've explained to you that the EEC/EU haven't provided 57% of our trade or the funding for our areas hit by industrial decline. I think that's quite helpful to be honest.

No, the "facts" aren't either made up or propaganda, they are made up and propaganda. Do you get anything right?

Guess constantly picking you up on your made up ideas must grate a bit.

The UK isn't a small country you wally.

The fact that you think its just "pedantry" shows you clearly don't understand the basics.

And there you go again. You clearly don't understand the basics of what is being discussed, more a shame than anything else.

EEC/EU haven't provided 57% of our trade or funding for areas hit by industrial decline. I'm not sure what else you can be told. The EEC/EU don't provide any of our trade. Regeneration of our cities is funded by British taxpayers contributions to the EU. The EU aren't paying for it, we are.

EEC/EU haven't provided 57% of our trade or funding for areas hit by industrial decline. I'm not sure what else you can be told. The EEC/EU don't provide any of our trade. Regeneration of our cities is funded by British taxpayers contributions to the EU. The EU aren't paying for it, we are.

Still struggling along with your made up arguments I see. Here, have one of these

When are Scotland and Wales leaving the Union?

Apologies if I wasn't clear. For clarification, my point is that it is worrying that someone like you with such little understanding of the basics of the subject will be voting in this referendum. Hope that clears it up a bit.

I'm not sure if you're on a wind-up or being serious here. A worrying example of some of the population that votes on a subject without understanding it.