Sour Mash

It's not my made up figure, try reading a bit, you won't look so stupid.

He's making stuff up as he doesn't understand the absolute basics of the subject.

No, they're not 'made up'. You do find all Thi properly confusing don't you.

Ah, so you didn't want those particular stats on why we should leave How about this one; £0 = our net contribution to the EU when we leave.

In reality they would take a practical approach, we would continue to trade successfully with Europe as we have for hundreds of years, as we've somehow miraculously been able to trade successfully with the rest of the world without political union and armageddon will be avoided. Our Economic stability isn't reliant on political union with Europe.

That doesn't make sense. Why would they hold all the cards?

Of course no one knows precisely, but realistically, what would you expect to happen.

You're not answering my question.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11727741/Budget-2015-Cost-of-EU-member-to-be-3-billion-higher-than-expected.html Stick up the figures to show how little we're paying.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11727741/Budget-2015-Cost-of-EU-member-to-be-3-billion-higher-than-expected.html Stick up the figures to show how little we're paying.

So the EU will force us against our will to sign up for free movement? Nice group to be part of. What will happen if we don't sign up?

How?

Why are we exactly the same as Switzerland and Norway. Why are there so many successful trade agreements across the world without political control and complete free movement of people?

Net migration from the Eu = 172,000 Net contribution to the EU = £10.4 billion. How are those stats?

I'd still say it's a bit of a derby. Not as big a game as the skates by a million miles, but it's stil a bigger, different fixture to playing Burnley or Ipswich for example.

I'm not sure if this is serious or not?

Have we ever had such a strong squad/bench at our disposal? The likes of Tadic, Austin and Pelle all starting on the bench is mad.

Have you read Nick Illingworth's account? he gets it pretty much spot on, he was there,so was I, Turkish, fair few others. Do you think it is right and fair that people are not allowed to leave the country for a third of the year, have the areas they are allowed to enter in their home city significantly restricted, all without being convicted of a crime? Is that right or not?

Why weren't they arrested and convicted of any crime then?

Just pointing out your post is based on pretty much nothing but your own imagination.

Nick Illingworth's account is pretty much spot on, don't know why people don't just read that.

Yes, you can. You're still getting things wrong and making stuff up. I'll make it very clear to you, as you seem quite simple. These are Civil bans - no criminal conviction or charge is required.

Yes.

Do you believe everything you read in the papers?

As I thought, nothing.