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Would this press-led vitriol have been the same if it were a bigger club like Aston Villa?

Moyes has bullied young Tyler Dibling, too.

Defeated over two legs by us. Certainly hollow, but as a fan I'd probably find the whole thing hilarious and wouldn't hate it. I'd be laughing my way to the Premier League if I was a Boro fan.

The guy is a bit of a bellend, but he likes Rush so I'll let him off.

And that right there is why we're a bunch of cunts that will never win a thing of note in any of our lifetimes. You'd favour 'optics' over that, though.

The tendency to sack and remove in this country is so endemic. It spreads across football, business and politics like a fucking miasma. If they're incompetent or have committed a heinous crime, fine. If they're generally competent and have made a gross error of judgement which isn't criminal or morally repugnant, surely room can be made for educating and keeping them?

Could allow clubs playing Bournemouth to stay and train, too. You know, that Premier League club with European football? Used to be referred to as Boscombe / The bucket rattlers?

I'm hoping they get beat on penalties or some excruciating shit like that. If not, and they get promoted, I'll get over it pretty quickly. Boro were never on my radar as a club before this season. I'm sure they'll go back to that position sharpish Oh, and I won't be watching. It's a sunny day and I've more interesting things to do.

Acceptance for me. I've accepted the EFL are a bunch of sleazy, easily-influenced cockwombles. I've accepted that Parsons and our legal team know fuck all. I've accepted that we made a mistake in scouting training sessions when we didn't really need to, and we're silly enough to get caught. I've accepted that we've been hit hard with sanctions and it fucking hurts. I'll remember that pain going forward. I'm moving on. Keep Tonda. Adopt an 'Us v. Them mentality'. Try again next season.

Not great, but could have been augmented with some accents of colour elsewhere - he's gone for what look to be blue jeans. A terrid combination. Also, what is that in his jacket pocket, a fucking piece of white A4 paper?

Superb banter.

Is this going to be a universally hated event, a bit like Cersei Lannister using wildfire to destroy half of King's Landing?

Cortese's ruthlessness was on another level...

Fair enough. I'll never agree with you on this. Least we've discussed things amicably, I guess.

Absolutely. Little bit of rule-breaking never went amiss.

The £200m game that his tactics and player management got us into the position of playing.

No. He was central to us getting into a position where automatic promotion was a real possibility. His misdemeanours are thus rather forgivable.

Embarrassingly bad. No attempt at hiding. Buying coffees in adjacent businesses. Reckless. Almost as if we expected a slap on the wrist and fine if caught, so didn't care too much for precaution...

I think... a) the news reports on the facts that Tonda ordered it done on multiple occasions and b) the huge sanction we've been given ... have made many so frustrated that theyve lost sight of the fact that this 'crime' is not the morally deplorable act the EFL would have your mother, brother, auntie and granddaughter believe it is. We are surely all agreed it is stupid. Stupid to get caught. Stupid in that our squad was good enough to win without it. Stupid in that Parsons handed it to Gibson and the EFal on a plate, expecting clemency and the same response Bielsa got. Again, heads should roll. Not for moral reasons, but for incompetence in the actions themselves and our lazy response to it.

It gave him ammunition, for sure. It's then utilising it with formations, players, diluting it and disseminating it in a way easily understandable to multiple players. He could certainly motivate, too. Scouting their training gave potential for tactical advantage, but only if Tonda and his team came up with ways to exploit it to the fullest extent. I certainly can't compute the idea that this surveillance granted Tonda the ability to make our players run themselves into the ground or keep attacking late into the 90th minute.

You said a while back that you didn't think it gave that much of an advantage?

I don't remember every one of my posts on the matter, but I'm still in the 'keep Tonda and fuck the world' camp. Scouting out opposition training? Not a big deal. Shrugged off on the continent, but the precious cunts in England can't be having it.

Exactly this. The moral standards should be the same. I really hope we offer some form of litigious onslaught. We've been so fucking passive.

The double standards are maddening.

We did nothing because we naively expected a fine at worst. Clueless as to the extent Boro were willing to go