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UN is largely a waste of space. Btw I do not believe, and have never said the Palestinian grievances aren’t valid. Netanyahu has clearly enabled Hamas. But after say the Harrods bombing I wouldn’t be going on a march in London to Unite Ireland a week later, shout abuse about those murdered, and saying British army are as much to blame as the bombers. And then at the same time I am no fan of the IRA, this is about uniting Ireland which is completely different.

You said you wanted us to stay well clear. That isn’t wanting peace - an obvious goal of probably everyone on this thread, but is a look away approach that is the play of a coward. Keep up the passive aggression though, you are so good at it.

And there we go, justification that I am sure you will deny.

Absolutely not.

Don’t think at any point I have supported flattening Gaza. Maybe that has been your assumption when I am challenging the clear anti-Israeli views?

Great answer

Genuine question, after last Saturday’s attack do you think Israel should’ve done nothing? I know Rallyboy would just say no comment to any line of questioning for fear of upsetting Arabs. All in name of smug pacifism

Ahh funny he has commissioned show on CH4 with all the lost credibility. FWIW I don’t really like him. No sympathy for Hamas whatsoever amongst the intellectuals desperate to side with Muslims over Jews. They just do a number count on dead babies to make sure they are on the right side.

You might want to hear some first hand account of some Jews in London on Saturday

Always watch Bill Maher’ Real Time and good that now back on. Get good range of opinions although Democrat leaning often calls lunacy of the left. How someone watches Question Time when you have more insightful stuff like this albeit hidden away when in UK is beyond me. Would hope some on here might watch that clip but won’t hold out hope

Our own counter to Elon Musks free to express anything. Far too sensitive and all I said was that Fan the Flames need to toughen up. He keeps banging on quoting ‘racist cunts’ like someone obsessed and getting a tad unhinged

So posts being removed by mods again. Beyond pathetic

You want to meet my husband - he has a fiery temperament and doesn’t suffer fools. My point is that some people get more irate with Israel than when any other nation does similar. And there is an antisemitic parallel. As David Baddiel puts it people think they are punching upwards (against the establishment) when criticising Jews so don’t equate it with racism ( hopefully someone has written a research paper on are Jews a race) I think there is similar with Israel, being backed by US so the left feel like open season when criticising Israel.

Btw where was all the outrage at the atrocities in Syria by Assad and Putin? What with all this love for humanity surely some of you righteous souls were tormented by such lack of compassion?

I forgive her for her age and thankfully she is extremely bright and won’t turn out to be like one of the tiresome soppy pricks on this board reciting phone-ins and newspaper comments to demonstrate their wisdom. Sorry couldn’t help myself sweet pea

Hard to tell with some. Do you think Corbyn was anti-Semitic or just anti Netanyahu?

Ok but from what I hear they have almost complete support from the population who are clearly traumatised and living in fear of what their legion of enemies will do to them unchecked. Many seemed to be absolutely opposed to Netanyahu and his populist govt prior to last Saturday but now galvanised the support. We are base creatures when it comes to survival and want revenge, however futile it is.

Hamas don’t give a fuck about plight of Palestinians. They knew what they were doing and in many ways achieving aims - see this thread for the loathing of Israel.

Maybe they know the dangers of the folk who see know evil. Look who is backing Hamas tells you all. Naive in extreme. There is no good outcome. But just having sympathy for the Palestinians is neither here or there in terms of policy or solutions. I don’t have the answer btw

I don’t think I am as black and white as you may think but does feel like it is a sixth form common room. My daughter recently said free Palestine but is pretty clueless about the situation.

Thread is full of nothing but earnest Palestinian fan boys TBF

Not sure what your point is but no

Was out with 5 mates tonight who all love their football. Not one of us watched the England game.

I know what do I do with my eighth fucking sombrero?