Saint86

Stockport to get promoted from League 1 this season i reckon, would give them an outside shot at being champions without the mega millions of Brum and Wrexham. Only question is whether luton decide to spend or not.

Sorry but statistical data is objective, or at worst and honest attempt at being as objective as its possible to be. Its the interpretation of data that is subjective. But is there a parallel universe i'm missing where data lies but a random scout's interpretation of a players finishing (insert other attribute) is entirely objective and factual - as opposed to not being remotely subjective based on that scout's own limited experience 😂? Also, what do you mean, "done from a video signal" - are we meant to be banning scouts from using video analysis now?! I really don't know why this is so hard for some people to accept/understand - if clubs want to look at a given player in a given league, then stats like xG (and conversion rates) can give them a broad overview of players that perform well at finishing criteria (as an example). It could similarly be progressive passing, interceptions, heading stats, ball carrying etc etc etc. Its not like they then don't go out and marry that up with traditional scouting work on identified players - it just lets them cast a wider net with less resources. At the end of the day, whoever reviews video footage, writes match reports, and/or reviews the data puts their own subjective stamp on it - you just have to hope they're suitably qualified to do that and to know why they're using those tools in the first instance.

I agree. Red and White shirts with dark blue/navy shorts/socks/detailing is what i want to see us in for a bit. We just look like sunderland/stoke/brentford/sheffield the rest of the time. We have a legitimate basis to use a unique colouring in the football league.

Alcaraz didn't suit our system, but that was Martin's fault frankly. He was one of our most talented and dangerous players, but Martin was too inflexible to be able to utilise him. As an aside, just imagined Le Tissier being coached by Martin, and i think its safe to say he wouldn't have become the legend he was from the bench and being told to pass the ball backwards all the time.

What?!?! Its pretty much what you're describing - a tool to review how someone like Haaland's (and assumed better finisher for your example) has a higher xG conversion rate in comparison to another player in the same league, i.e. vs someone like Shane Long (and assumed poorer finisher in this example). That's all it is, a metric to showcase how well strikers get themselves into goalscoring chances in matches under a given manager / tactical setup, and then how well they convert those chances vs similar players. I daresay that clubs have access to more detailed data, such as xGs and conversion rates in different areas of the pitch / different feet, heading etc. In the same as they'll have their own way to measure "progressive passing", and then highlight who can do it successfully. Is xG the be all and end all? Obviously not - as with all stats, it comes down to how the user makes use of the data. But frankly anyone who just decides to ignore the available data is either a superbly intuitive scout, or is just being foolish imo.

The issue for me is that saints have been too volatile lately. What level players are we trying to sign for? One minute we're championship looking young potential players, the next minute we're after players with experience who can battle to help us avoid the drop - and who is identifying and signing these players (huge change at recruitment and management level). The business model would have made more sense had we been an established premier league side looking to recruit players that can become top half prem players and push us into european contention, similarly we would be able to send out our own promising kids to the other leagues for experience. As it is, our kids are being poached by the established clubs and/or we seemingly don't trust them to risk them in promotion / relegation battles, and on top of that, Ankerson and Kraft dismantled our existing recruitment structure - the same one that got in players like KWP, Tino, and Lavia. Sports Republic have shat in their own bed so far, multiple times. People are enthusiastic about Spors because he's so far made all the right moves re repairing the damage that SR have previously done to us - i.e., restoring our scouting and recruitment teams to something resembling the norm for a club of our size. If only it had been done sooner rather than us spending hundreds of millions thinking we had some novel football geniuses at the helm who could reinvent football recruitment with a teds talk

The sleeves / shoulder detail on the home looks shite with that red half merging from top and bottom. They always have to find some way to cock it up 🤦

Fancy us to win the champ. Yes... I actually think we might win something.

I have never felt so enamoured towards another fanbase as i do towards Rangers with this post. They really do get it 😂 In fairness, he would be a good appointment for them - he would dominate in that league no question at all - but as with saints, it would be flattery to deceive, and then being too soft against any serious side they met in europe / celtic.

Agree, but i think the vast majority of people are well aware of this, are pleased that we've got Spors in trying to rebuild the recruitment back to something resembling what we had previously (and after wreck it Rasmus and co dismantled it), and are pleased with the early signs (Will Still, finally singing a pacey and powerful CB, noises from fernandes and negotiating stance re Dibling) - there isn't much to fault Spors' new era on so far?

Looks great, which means it won't happen 😖

No he isn't/wasn't - he played in a shit side with crap service, most of which were bread and butter balls for CBs, and he won more than any other striker. He was also routinely (isolated which made it much easier for CB's to mark him and be comfortable in their positions). Had saints actually been getting down the flanks / to the byline, whipping in crosses rather than over the top balls of deep diagonal crosses, and had players off him, he would have won more and had better stats for assists and chance creation. We were shit, he's a limited striker, but to say he's poor in the air is needless revisionism.

He's a poacher / finisher, and a good one - and his off the ball movement / positioning is also very good from what I've seen. Put a player like that in a side that's dominant and he'll get you goals... sadly I also think his overall ceiling will be limited by his physicality - and by that I don't think he excels in either strength or pace. I hope I am wrong, and I would love to see us give him a go in pre season because the mental side of his game is for me above why of the other strikers we currently have, but as above, I do think he will have a ceiling of champ (sadly) - but we are in the champ, and he's a player that loves the club and would be on cheaper wages - use him as a squad player this year and who knows 🤷

Everything I have seen (even from the all knowing Romano himself) says city get 30% of what Chelsea pay - which will be his £30m release clause. https://www.si.com/soccer/chelsea-sign-liam-delap-report https://www.football365.com/news/chelsea-total-agreement-sign-30m-star-romano-confirms-three-reasons-man-utd-u-turn

There rolling 3 year losses stand at 200M plus. I know what you're saying, but they surely can't be too flush with the cash - the limit is £83M.

In SaintsExtra's case, pretty sure they also pick through saintsweb's "vomit" from time to time 😅😂

Reality is that they'll basically lose money on delap when you consider his signing on fee and any agents fees. Absolutely crazy to sign him for £20M with a 30% sell on clause back to city, and then put a 30M release clause in his contract - it's almost like recruitment and contracts were in different departments that didn't talk to each other. They've essentially lost their best player for zero profit and will need to replace him on a smaller budget - and that was always going to be their best case scenario... He could have flopped and been a £20M waste, and if he did well they would break even at best 😅. Schoolboy stuff from Ipswich 🧑‍🎓

A CB with pace and power that actually wants to be here?!?!?! Plus he's young, hungry, and guaranteed to improve? 😨 I'm dreaming right? What's wrong with him, is he injured? Does he pass like Wanyama? There has to be something...

Apparently Juan is staying at Goztepe next season. How much did Saints pay for him? Anyone know if we've received a loan fee or anything?

Keeping AA is the obvious choice and people are mad to consider selling him for anything other than silly money. He was arguably the best player in the championship in our promotion season, and was top on combined goals/assists from memory?

That close to the start of the season it will be near full strength from both sides you'd imagine.

What a pair...

Leicester forums yesterday saying that Martin is 100% done, that they're also trying to sign someone from saints, and that people's heads will fall off (in a bad way) over who that is... It couldn't be Stephens... could it? Hopefully not Adam Armstrong though...

THB and Edwards as a minimum should be given a chance to see how they play together and whether they can develop. Potentially with an experienced head (fonte esq) to settle things down and take a lead. The objective is to build for the premier league, not sign players like Keane who are already established pros and who are being considered a weak link / excess to requirements in a poor Everton side. Sanda has shown there is some potential to him as well, and in a similar boat there is Charles (in CM). I personally would like to see all them retained and their pathways into the first team and opportunities to develop not being blocked. So, if we are serious about promotion and building a future team for them prem, i think the likes of THB, Edwards, Charles, Downes (if he can sort out his attitude), and Fernandes should all be on a "to be retained" list. And that shouldn't change unless silly money offers are received. Ditto ramsdale... If the club can afford it and we're happy to play hardball. Keep all of them and it's a very solid spine for championship team, and one that has the scope to grow into the next fonte, Spiderman, lallana, Lambert style core of a side.