Sergei Gotsmanov

Signed. If you support the football team you should support the people that work there.

MLT was the greatest.

They can be quite unpalatable for mainstream politics.

It went to an unhealthy different level. Do we need the likes of Campbell and Coulson in the political process?

Yes a paper that backed Labour for 13 years.

No I was talking about responsibility as a society.

I think you are probably spot on.

It is whether there is a willingness to change it. I hope David Davis gets his way.

To compare Ingham with Campbell is very naive. Politics was very different then. Did Ingham get Parkinson to leave his wife as he did with an honourable man like Robin Cook or sex up documents from a students project to go to war? If you cannot recognise the damage done by this new type of politics introduced by Blair then I am frankly surprised?

Responsibility is looking after your old, your health and your vulnerable and yes that is very very expensive.

BTF I am sure that you would not compare the role of Satchi and Saatchi in the eighties and the role of the spin Doctors under Blair and Brown. It was very very unhealthy for politics.

Its been barely a year. Do you understand the legislative process and how long it takes?

Satchi and Satchi sat in cabinet meetings and were part of the inner circle were they. Do you think they were for hire or did Labour ver recruit them?

It will take time to dismantle some of the civil liberty attrocities carried out by Labour but I doubt it. The police enjoy their new powers as do the councils.

Responsibility is an expensive commodity that has to be paid for.

Sorry VFTT but you do not seem to have addressed the comparison between Satchi and Satchi and spin Doctors. Simply opted for a rather condescending 'you are out of my depth' line. So can you see the difference between the role of an advertsing agency and a spin doctor?

Hopefully they will address some of these issues but I am not holding my breath.

Are you Greek?

They are an advertising agency and did not change the very nature of internal politics. yes Satchi and Satchi were hands on in the Falklands war like Cambell was in Kossovo. They attended cabinet meetings etc etc. Again a rather ill thought out post.

and how do we pay for this?

It was a left of centre government that changed the way politics is done. Lovely people like Mandelson, Balls and Campbell changed the face of politics for the worse. So musch so that Cameron felt the need to employ the delightful Coulson to compete.

How vulgarly patronising. You fail to understand that for a society to flourish it needs to generate wealth. Only then can everybody's standard of living rise.

They were a left of centre Government. I am in the David Davis camp.

A very lazy argument. My viewpoint has developed from my own experience not highbrow reading. They are generally based on the concept of respect, kindness, responsibility and that you can only achieve a better standard of living by creating wealth.

Delve a bit deeper and look into what you can say, who you can employ, survelliance. It is pretty depressing.