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  1. https://www.ft.com/content/4849bf68-1b13-11e9-9e64-d150b3105d21 How the Brexit options would affect the economy As the UK weighs up its future relationship with the EU, economists assess the choices. The fortunes of Britain’s economy hinge on what sort of relationship with the EU the UK finally decides on — and the options range from no deal to no Brexit. Following the defeat of Prime Minister Theresa May’s deal to leave the EU, City of London economists have published widely differing views on the probability of the possible outcomes. Yet there is clear agreement that the current deadlock is damaging the economy, and that the softest Brexit possible — or no Brexit at all — would best serve UK economic interests.* “Ongoing uncertainty . . . could have a pernicious effect,” said George Buckley, at Nomura.* Consensus Economics has compiled independent forecasts of the short term outlook based on the prime minister’s deal passing, no deal and remaining in the EU. The government’s economic analysis of different scenarios, alongside its white paper on immigration, contain the building blocks needed to give a good estimate of what officials think the longer-term impact of different options would be.* No deal If the UK leaves on March 29 with no deal, economists are not now predicting a recession because the EU is prepared to mitigate the effects temporarily. But UK output growth will slow sharply to just 0.9 per cent in 2019 and 2020, according to Consensus Economics. The costs rise, however, as the UK adjusts to its new circumstances, with tariffs at the UK-EU border, significant non-tariff barriers on goods and new restrictions on trade in services. According to the government’s white paper on migration, the inflow of migrants from the EU would fall 80 per cent; this imposes significant further costs, says the official impact assessment. After 15 years, the long-term estimate is that the economy would be 9.1 per cent smaller than if the UK had remained in the EU, the government said. Canada-style trade deal This is the outcome sought by most Brexiters. It has proved impossible to negotiate because it clashes with Britain’s pledge to avoid infrastructure on the Irish border. Even if that changed, the economics of a free trade agreement are not that much better than that of no deal, according to the published assessments. There is no specific short term forecast available. In the long term, a free trade agreement avoids tariffs and some non-tariff barriers. But many obstacles to trade remain, including the burdens of completing customs declarations and product checks to ensure that goods meet both EU and British regulations. Services’ access to the EU would be significantly weaker than now and migration much more restrictive.* The total costs in the official analysis suggest the economy would be 6.3 per cent smaller by 2034 than if the UK had remained in the EU.* A customs union with alignment on goods regulations Britain was heading in this direction under Mrs May’s deal. If Britain aligned its product rules with the EU and joined a customs union, it would be able to keep an infrastructure-free border with Ireland and minimal new checks at the key Dover-Calais border. For goods, it would have a closer relationship with the EU than Switzerland, although it would lose free access to the EU services market.* One downside is that Britain would not be able to strike meaningful free trade deals with other countries, although it might win regulatory gains in the service sector.* It probably could still introduce its own, much more restrictive, immigration regime, which would impose economic costs. “It seems unlikely they [the current government] would use the extra sovereignty in a way that would boost growth,” said Andy Goodwin, deputy director at the consultancy Oxford Economics.* Friction-free goods trade, however, would make this a much less costly outcome than a Canada-style agreement. Losing the ability to have an independent trade policy has minimal effect according to the government’s assessment. The total costs in the official analysis suggest the economy would be 2.2 per cent smaller in 15 years than if the UK had remained in the EU.* Remain in the EU single market and customs union Under the Norway Plus model advocated by MPs such as Nick Boles, Stephen Kinnock and Nicky Morgan, Britain would seek to remain inside the economic institutions of the EU, while leaving its political apparatus. The UK would gain no new freedoms and by being part of the EU’s economic institutions, the country would lose the ability to set its own migration and regulatory regimes, but the economic analysis suggests this is a price worth paying. There would be no economic cost either in the short or long run.* Remain in the EU after a second referendum Economists say the short-term economic outlook would be similar as under any of the negotiated outcomes described above. With transitional arrangements in place, the immediate uncertainty would subside and the differences would emerge over time. “This is all about kicking the can down the road,” said Daniel Vernazza, economist at UniCredit. But some economists said a decision to hold a second referendum could, by contrast, depress economic activity in the short term. Kallum Pickering, economist at Berenberg, described it as the biggest risk to the outlook for this year, while John Wraith, a strategist at UBS, said any relief “would be offset by the drawing out of the intense uncertainty”. However, if a new vote casts Brexit aside, economists inside and outside government think the outcomes would be the best available. Economists and officials think it would lead to more rapid growth in the next two years and avoid any longer-term hit to prosperity.
  2. http://news.sky.com/story/cross-channel-freight-trade-could-drop-by-87-govt-document-warns-11614002 Cross-Channel freight trade could drop by between 75% and 87% for six months in the event of a "no-deal" Brexit, according to a Border Force document obtained by Sky News. A slide from an internal Government presentation marked "Official-Sensitive" and titled "Freight Traffic Contingency Assumptions" is a recent internal assessment much of which was omitted from public No Deal documentation. It reads: "The reasonable worst case flow through the Short Straits is reduced to between 13% and 25% of current capacity for a period of between 3-6 months". This is a reference to traffic from Dover-Calais and in the Channel Tunnel. This occurs because of matters out of the control of the UK Government - the imposition of "third country" checks on UK trade by all EU countries and France in particular. The document assumes: "The French will apply at least the legal minimum of third country customs controls on all goods and sanitay and phytosanitary (SPS) checks on specified food and agricultural products. This includes the imposition of 100% customs documents checks". Even after an initial shock, Border Force assumes that a "new normal" for cross Channel freight will be 50-100% of current flows lasting "until significant changes are made to improve border arrangements such as automation". The document suggests that Agrifood exports (up to 15% of goods trade) would all have to be rerouted away from Calais and the Channel Tunnel to ports with an existing Border Inspection Post, such as Zeebrugge or Rotterdam, but that "it is unclear whether they will have sufficient capacity , causing delay at these locations". The document acknowledges that a "significant proportion of traders will not be ready for D1ND (Day One No Deal)".
  3. But they delivered on the referendum result - don't forget that people are so sick of it they just want something done. This way they are seeing the ERG compromise, and it makes them look like a United party. You'll then have the remain part of the Labour party ripping Corbyn a new one because he didn't do enough.
  4. Not only that, but then the Tories will be able to push the line that Labour under Corbyn are enemy's of Democracy, and that Labour voted the only leave option down. Corbyn's been one step behind the whole time - and it takes a lot to get schooled by that moron May.
  5. We actually never met up for that pint at waterloo, need to sort it. Genuinely.
  6. I think I led that movement.
  7. So, serious question here - if we're playing 3 at the back, with Vestergaard, Bednarek and Stephens, so we need another CB? They are looking decent, and the way they can all bring the ball out of defence is making a difference. They're not perfect, but they're certainly playing far better.
  8. Yes, but I was just on Skybet as I don't flick between bookies, so I would say he's telling the truth on that one.
  9. 66/1 now for the loss.
  10. I just got those odds BTW (well, 14/1 for draw).
  11. My tactic tends to be to bet one result down - if we're leading 1-0, go on the loss, leading 2-0, go on the draw.
  12. JWP is getting back into the swing of things. When he's on form he really is a decent Prem player.
  13. My gateman's left due to Brexit unfortunately.
  14. That got sorted years ago - and I got a new drive and 5m electric gate out of it, so maybe I'm better at it than you think...
  15. Exactly. By all accounts he's a good lad from the people around the club that I've spoken to.
  16. See, I find this revisionist history of Boufal quite strange. Out of all the things that he was, he wasn't lazy - he worked hard when on the pitch. The only "attitude" issues we saw was once against Puel after he hadn't played him for ages and he scored a stunner, and against Mark Hughes who notoriously doesn't get on with anyone - and then he got shipped out on loan. The workrate, speed of game and directness would be perfect for Hassenhuttls game. He doesn't fit in with ponderous build up that we've seen under the last 3 Manager's.
  17. It was probably the latest update to the Competition Commission in 1998, which aligned us with the stricter EU rules on buyouts or mergers...but luckily we won't have to follow this once we're free of the EU, and the larger companies can be free to vacuum up all the smaller companies, stifle competition and price fix through the various cartels we'll see formed.
  18. You negotiate business deals on a daily basis? You? That you on the right, is it?
  19. It's a good speech. I can't trust a thing he says, but it's a good speech. He'd probably be a better PM than May mind.
  20. Colour me surprised!
  21. This was before it started, so no. Do you think Corbyn should go?
  22. Nah, only terrorists, anti-semites, dictators and high ranking Russians - the ones he agrees with.
  23. Not really, because all the other parties don't want us driving off a cliffedge with no deal - they'd prefer a second referendum or no Brexit. Not strange at all.
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