Unbelievable Jeff

"Beyond reasonable doubt" means that no other logical explanation can be derived from the facts except that the defendant committed the crime. It is also referred to as a "moral certainty".

I've been saying it since he was linked with us, but no-one wanted to listen.

I wonder if he'll ever return to the scene of the crime? He must be mortally embarrassed.

Especially for the poor - it must be so exciting seeing how much food they have to get from a food bank weekly, and really exciting that it will be far, far more when we exit the EU.

Are you ****ing kidding? You worked for the CPS and you don't know the basics of the court system. The CoA does not have a jury (so **** knows how those 2 witnesses swayed them) - it's a court that looks at the rule of law applied to the case to see if the conviction is safe. There was obviously something applied within the initial case that made the conviction unsafe - and this is probably what Evans is suing his legal representation for, as they should have noticed this and brought it to the judges attention in the first case. He will have been told to sue them as he'd get more from a civil case from them then he'd get through the courts. This is as far as I have got with your post, as you obviously have no idea what the flying **** you're talking about. I can't believe I've spent so long debating this with someone who is quite clearly has no legal background but feels he can lecture anyone else on it.

On the BBC the other day the biggest story was about our cricket team losing to the Windies. I was like "I'm sure we just beat Sri Lanka". It turns out it was women's cricket. Like WTF? They'll be letting them drive soon.

Is Hughes REALLY still here? This club's a ****ing joke.

The strangest thing is, Stanley, Rachel and Jo seem to be very decent people - I wonder why Boris ended up like he did?

It's irrelevant - the underlying details have changed. The choice is leave hard, leave soft, don't leave. It's all well and good saying the upfront vote is the one that should be acted on, but that was without any knowledge of the "deals" that were on the table.

But there is no deal to be had - there never has been - it's a deal that fits in with the framework of not.

I’m wondering - what was the point of any politicians working on anything over the last 2 years? The only option has been a hard Brexit, via the date, as no hard Brexit, or soft Brexit was ever going to get through parliament…so I’m wondering, what are people so up in arms about with Theresa? It makes no difference whether or was handled well or badly, the result will always have been the same.

Sorry to interrupt this debate - but is the answer not bleeding obvious now. There are 3 options: - May's plan (which works within the EU framework) - Hard Brexit - No Brexit Considering that the first two won't get through parliament irrespective of the party or leader that puts it's forward, surely all that can happen now is a vote of the 3 options to the people?

No, but I explained on another thread that the reason he was found innocent was due to the massive issues around the prosecution and the way it was all played out in public - hence why I think SPGs name should be kept out of the news. And of course, double jeopardy precluded him from being tried properly a second time. You notice with the Ched Evans case - when it was being reported on in the papers every day, he's found guilty. When the appeal goes by fairly silently, he's found innocent. So, if you can't be bothered to read back, I'll re-post, as it would be good to have an answer to the following 2 questions: - Do you think that people who are a bit of a scumbag deserve 2 and a half years in prison and the loss of a couple of million pounds? - Do you believe the Birmingham 6 should have got compensation?

* Southampton are the only club yet to score from either a corner, a free-kick, a throw-in, a cross or a through ball. * Southampton have the worst conversion rate since the dawn of actual time (4.59%). * Southampton are the only team to have led at home in the Premier League without ever going on to win. https://www.football365.com/news/three-statistics-that-sum-up-your-clubs-season-so-far-2

Yes or no, you think that should be the punishment for being found innocent after appeal? You also don't believe the Birmingham 6 should have got compensation then?

What, this one?

To be fair, many brexiteers deserve to be patronised.

Yeah, we'll see!

Yeah, but it won't half be funny seeing their angry little faces.

Has anyone actually read a workable solution for NI. This will be the downfall, as I think it is actually unimplementable (not sure if word).

People have said May would be ousted for the last 12 months. It hasn't happened yet and I don't think it will.

As we've had no news, it's quite entertaining to look through this old thread... https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?60182-Hughes-out/page3#.W-lz65P7SM8

Is Shurlock that skinny?

Yep, hindsight is the best way to judge mistakes. If you can turn change decisions, with hindsight, then you should. We should sack Hughes, and we should have a second referendum.

Yeah Shurlock, you Glasweigan big sad