Unbelievable Jeff

I don't think the point was about his past record - the point is about his record with teams with their Backs to the Wall - the last two jobs where he's been involved in a relegation fight he's been sacked both times - he was unable to turn them around. The overall record is not an issue, and to a certain degree is irrelevant. The important thing is how he can rejuvenate us.

Good luck Mark, think you're gonna need it!

Who had 4.54pm, Wednesday?

Show off. I bumped into Ian Hislop yesterday. He was wearing a very fetching trilby.

The biggest positive is how quickly he's going to get working with the team...hopefully we'll see a proper team out going forward.

Either they're ****ing clueless, or he's not interested. It genuinely could be either of them.

Read back through the thread, I'm not repeating for everyone who can't accept that I don't think he's a good appointment.

This is also true.

This.

But who's nitpicking? Anyone but Pellegrino, and complaining about another rubbish appointment is two separate things.

No, Silva.

:lol:

I thought someone like you would appreciate that. If the above was true, it tends to beg the question, why have you argued so long and so verciferously? I'm assuming it's because all you really want is people to validate you and your opinion. Also not sure why you're getting so aggressive.

I know. It's **** though.

Genuine Lols at that last sentence.

I do blame the board for that, don't worry. I also blame them for having to appoint Hughes as our only choice. Then lastly, I am unhappy that Hughes will become our manager because Silva is out there (and we don't know if he'd come to us or not). I will be especially ****ed off of the Hughes contract is more than until the end of the season.

I was just stating a fact Hypo, I wasn't being aggressive.

I'm not saying there is an alternative, I'm just saying it's a pretty **** alternative if that's all we're left with. I'm not interested in answering any more straw men, as we don't know what's going on with Silva etc. Is have Clement for instance, but only because I think he'd provide the 8 game bounce we need.

Yes, but what your saying is that I can't criticise or be disappointed because they're the only options we're being presented, which is bullocks. I'd probably prefer Paul Clement until the end of the season above the other two as I think he'd produce the bounce effect we'd need more than the other two.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this. I think he was lucky as he was manager at a time when they had multiple excellent players come through. You don't think that. He was **** at the next two clubs he went to, and then had one good season at Wet Spam.

No, and I've said that a number of times. Just because we have limited options doesn't mean you have to be happy with those options. Not sure what you don't understand about that.

Come on Hypo, we've played this game before. It's called "wilful misinterpretation" on your side. If that's the case, then we'd have to go for either Bilic or Hughes. Not a good appointment (but better than MP).

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but to say I have to be happy with Hughes or Bilic as they're our only realistic options is bullocks. Better than MP, yes, but not very good.

Christ, you're being really quite thick today aren't you? I think Hughes will be an upgrade on Pellegrino. I've said that. I just don't think he's a very good upgrade. IMO we need to go out and get Silva. End of. If you're going to come up with strawmen ******** so that you can make out I don't want anyone, then that's fair enough, but it's not reasonable. At the moment, all we know is that Silva, Hughes and Bilic are out there, and they all may/may not be interested. IMO two are very risky, and until he turns us down we should be trying our hardest to get Silva. Just have a read of that Stoke thread and see who else thinks Hughes will be a good option for us.

God, people say that about all fans. First it was Liverpool, then Everton and their ****ing dug outs, and West Ham. Now it's Stoke. All fan forums are full of deluded people - we're no different on here.