Guided Missile

I came across this old post from the Saints Forum: Dear God, please don't allow another fan-friendly Chairman into our club and that includes any one from Crouch, McMenemy and Le Tissier. We need a professional....

Your approach to googling user names, in an attempt to determine their real identities is a clever and effective one, Stanley. I googled yours and came up with "tool"...

There may be only one offer on the table for a loss making division one football club, but if that goes out of existence, who's to say that there wouldn't be plenty of buyers for the Stadium. If the City council in the absence of football games, be persuaded to allow 10, rather than 4, concerts every year, I reckon an entertainment venue could work and the stadium would definitely have a value. That value may be more than the offer being tabled for the going concern. You only have to see the success that the Dome (O2 Arena) has become when someone with a bit of business ability comes along to run it...

There is no guarantee that the offer they receive is going to be more than the realised asset value on liquidation. The creditors also have a choice as to whether they accept any sum less than they are owed and in fact, if I was Norwich Union and the offer is much less than £10M for the Stadium, I'd be tempted to lease it out to, say, Southampton City Council for community and entertainment events , for £500K a year.

Sorry about that, Steve. My increasingly bizzarre posts last night were in direct proportion to my Courvoisier intake. Sorry to Clapham, as well...

Total boll ox...

SFC aren't in administration. I can't see, for instance, David McGoldrick's contract costing, let's say, £5,000 a week, being broken, in anticipation of a £1M plus transfer fee. Get real, Clapham. How many f***ing employees of any company that you've been involved in, have been valued under intangible assets????? You haven't got a Scoobie, let's face it....

Don't think that the fact that most people agreeing with you makes it right. Most of the brainless posters on here thought Wilde was the best thing that ever happened to Saints and that includes your bum chum Um Pahars. I get my information on the status of professional footballers from a good mate of mine, an ex-pro. Take it from me, footballers and their contracts are nothing like any employee you have come across. It's like saying "The Artist Formally Known as Prince" was an employee of Sony.

"The court decided that it is a breach of European law for clubs to demand a transfer fee in respect of a player at the end of his contract" I was talking about the players that are currently under contract with SFC who, apparently, are not in administration. For them, the administrator can demand a transfer fee...

You obviously have no idea about the contractual and legal status of professional footballers. They are not employees of the club, FFS. That status is reserved for people that clean the toilets and serve food. They are assets that can be sold in a way that is unlike employees and they are not subject to normal employment rules (ie Tax-free benefit games, etc.) All Barclays has to do is insist that the contracts of players of any value are sold, then they get their money. Norwich Union take possession of the stadium and Jacksons Farm and develop, break up or operate them. End of story...

Norwich Union could simply take possession of the Stadium and with Southampton City Council's cooperation, run it as a community stadium which may well bring in income from non-football events at a level that would provide a better return than writing off £10M in asset value. If I was them, I would have a forceful meeting with the council and demand permission for 10 or more concerts per year together with assorted events in between. As my thread suggested, the Top Rank Suite made more money than Southampton Speedway ever did....

What has to be remembered is that any offer for the club that is short of what is owed to the creditors will require them (ie Barclays, Norwich Union and HMRC) agreeing to accept less, because if the offer is less than the break up value of the club, then these guys will have no, and I mean, no hesitation in forcing Fry into simply liquidating the assets. This leads me on to the possibility that selling the players to the vultures and St. Mary's to Southampton City Council, may be the contingency plan that Fry is faced with. IMHO an offer that takes the p!$$ may be worse than no offer at all and push us into the unthinkable. Southampton Speedway all over again. Top Dogs one season and Top Rank the next...

Look, there's no need to get so upset. It wasn't me that banned you from that PS3 forum. If you're looking for a new forum to groom 12 year olds, this one probably isn't your best choice. Believe me, I've met some of the posters and they're f***ing ugly...

Thanks...

IMHO, the only way Pinnacle Asset Management, are in any way involved in the purchase of SFC, is because they may know someone with a f*** sight more assets than they have, and have a Director who is an MLT groupie. They are, again, IMHO, more like Barry Beardall, but with as much money in their briefcases, as film in the Farmer's camera... ...and the clue? "Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/06/2008 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)" This means their asset value is less than £2.8M and their turnover is less than £5.6M. In other words, they know a former Saints player and a bank manager and hope to get a cut...

I'm not really interested in your experience as either an auditor, or a Pompey fan. What I am really interested in, is how you got banned from this PS3 forum. Were you caught cheating at Halo? :smt018

He normally posts on a Pompey website, with gems like this: Don't you love getting a lesson in the economics of football, from a Skate?

I will never buy a Yorkie and drink (Special Offer at £1.50) in St. Marys again, if that saggy faced, Coc kney Judas returns to the club. He has demonstrated, since leaving our club, just how unsuited he is to manage a football club and what a bad choice he was, when Lowe appointed him. He helped Lowe relegate us and is forever tainted by his links to the Skates and I would like to demonstrate my credentials as a diehard Saints fan, by this selfless and noble gesture. Who's with me?

As far as I am concerned, his complete mismanagement of the club's finance's when, due to our relegation, a steady hand on the tiller was required, means that, if he returns, I will be making the noble gesture of never buying a chicken and mushroom pie at St. Mary's again. The thought of supporting that four-eyed, tax-dodging scouser will make it impossible to stomache. Who's with me?

The fans "confronted" the Burnley fans in the same way they had been doing all game and vice versa. It happens at every match at every ground. All I saw was the mood turn slightly ugly when the Pompey fans were spotted and much uglier when the smoke bomb was thrown from the Burnley crowd. The posters that said we threw it first were mistaken, from what I saw. I saw it being lit, FFS...

The suprise was that the police came mob handed, with dogs at the ready and asps drawn. I presume they knew we were going to lose and thus be relegated... My opinion is that nothing has changed since Hillsborough, apart from the terracing. The majority of football fans are treated like animals due to the rare occurence of misdemeanours by a minority. Yet, both Heysel and Hillsborough were failures by the police in the way they chose to control the crowds. If any young children had fallen over on the pitch on Saturday, they could have been trampled in the brief panic that accompanied the charge by the dog handlers and the police would have blamed the Saints fans for any injuries...

I have to get this off my chest, particularly due to all the cr@ p that's been posted about the pitch invasion. After the bitterly disappointing play-off defeat at Derby, their fans invaded the pitch and ran towards our our end, celebrating. As they approached, to a man, the Saints fans started applauding them and their team. In response to this, they shouted abuse and goaded us, preventing the Saints team from running over to us, to thank us for the support. The police tactics this day, was to face the Saints fans with batons drawn to prevent the minority in the stadium from Southampton, from running on the pitch and potentially sorting these chavs out. Saturday, despite a smoke bomb being thrown at us from the Burnley end, the police were facing us, with dogs and batons drawn. I'm puzzled and would appreciate why this happened from someone who witnessed both events and has a clue ....

Jamie Redknapp...

Having £200M gives you the ability to tell Barclays to f*** off...

Some may say that it would be a good thing for the consortia to merge so that a better deal can be struck. I think this would take us back to the internecine war that ruined the club over the last 5 years. We need a financially strong owner who will call the shots, but I have a feeling it may be back to a "group of local businessmen" with more egos than pound notes. God help us, if this happens...