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No organisation knows more about unfair competitive advantages than the EU. Take the example of the CAP that benefits EU farmers and food producers, to the detriment of poor farmers in Africa, for instance. EU farmers are guaranteed a price for their sugar which is three times higher than the world price. In 2014 Africa —the home of coffee— earned just £1.5 billion from the crop. Yet Germany, a leading processor, earned nearly double that from coffee re-exports. The reason for this is that Africa is punished by the EU with a 7.5 per cent tariff charge on roasted coffee but non-decaffeinated green coffee is exempt. As a result, the bulk of Africa’s export to the EU is unroasted green coffee and German manufacturers reap the rewards. The charge on cocoa is even more debilitating as the EU tariff charge is a massive 30 per cent for processed cocoa products like chocolate bars or cocoa powder, and 60 per cent for some other refined products containing cocoa.

I was thinking of terrorists posing as migrants. You were the one that had Muslim terrorists in mind. Mate, you're a total nutjob...

Extract from this well known racist scumbag rag

Please tell/show me, where I have ever used the term Muslim and I'll agree with you that I'm a racist scumbag. If not, apologise properly and I'll forgive you.

Who's the fool? Lean to read this article and maybe you're lean to understand why one reason Britain voted to leave was the understandable concerns of citizens in this country about the EU's migration policy. A year after we voted to leave and lo and behold. Germany has become the terror hub of Europe. One thing this "racist scumbag thingy" has leaned is that you, Sir, are an abusive poster who refuses to see both sides of an argument and should apologise to me. You've let this site down, you've let your fellow Saints fans down, but most of all, you've let yourself down. I just hope you have leaned from this...

Here's a quote from another racist scumbag Faiez Serraj, quoted in that racist rag, the Times, that connects uncontrolled migration with the risk of terrorism: Still, carry on with the abuse. It just destroys any argument you are making. Best Regards, Racist scumbag

An attempt was made, prior to the referendum, to address the concerns of many of the voters, by David Cameron on a visit to Brussels. It is worth reading the news report at the time, here. For those interested, the detailed result of Cameron's failed negotiations are shown in the final text here. The EU totally failed to meet any aspirations Cameron had of presenting an acceptable agreement to those concerned voters, prior to the referendum. I'll give you one extract from the EU conclusions in the document, regarding migration, that alarmed many in this country. The "EU-Turkey agenda" referred to a grubby deal signed with Turkey in an attempt to solve the migrant crisis. Fast forward two years and we can see the effectiveness of the EU deal makers, having sovereignty over our borders: Here's the consequences of this policy: I wouldn't trust the EU to run a tombola and as the above demonstrates, it's not the UK government or voters that are to blame for Brexit, but the EU's continued inability to address the aspirations and concerns of EU citizens. These wire tapping crooks are happier to give a totalitarian, human-rights abusing dictator like Erdoğan what he wanted, than Cameron and the British voters the square root of f*** all. Think about it. The EU give Turkey €6 billion ($6.8 billion) in aid, visa-free travel to Europe for Turkish citizens and meanwhile the UK agree to pay the EU €50 billion and are told that even after we pay this sum we may not get a free trade deal. All I say is let's get the hell out of Dodge City, as soon as possible, preferably paying nothing.

Exactly. I would describe it as accepting the inevitable, confident in the prospects which won't be changed by a meaningless impact assessment. We already had that from Osborne and the Bank of England and I'm struggling to notice the 500,000 additional unemployed and the inevitable recession the Leave vote was going to cause.

Don't feed the troll, Sergei. It means I have to read his manure to get to your rose bush...

Cheaper food that will accompany Brexit will benefit the poor, far more than the barista loving, restaurant dwelling, cheap labour reliant, liberal elite, who can afford to support political experiments like the EU.

...if you want a speedy US trade deal, Trump adviser warns A great article in the Telegraph yesterday. I think the US administration has had the EU worked out, as a protectionist cabal, rather than a free market. I also think that a free trade deal with the US is already lined up and modelled on NAFTA, leading our negotiators to string the EU along to save us the divorce bill. Screw them, I say and bring on GMO's and cheaper food...

So, please explain this to me, because I'm an ignorant Brexiteer. We invest £3 billion in the European Investment Bank in 1973, which itself invests in infrastructure projects in the EU. EIB stopped funding UK projects in June of this year, but today we find that we have to wait until 2054 to get our investment back, today worth over €10 billion and consisting an equity interest of 16% of the bank. At least Lloyds paid the UK taxpayer back and the £3.2 billion we lent the ungrateful Irish when they were in the cr@p in 2010 gets repaid by 2021. Still, I'm sure the EU **** suckers on this forum will think it's perfectly reasonable. Meanwhile, Catalonia leaves the EU overnight......

I love the total over reaction on this thread, despite the good news daily, regarding our exit from the EU and our prospects thereafter. I think it may be worth reminding the "We're Doomed" brigade of some very simple UK trade figures from 2015. [TABLE=class: cms_table, width: 500] [TR] [TD]Country[/TD] [TD]Imports (£m)[/TD] [TD]Exports (£m)[/TD] [TD]Total Trade(£m)[/TD] [TD]Trade Balance (£m)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]EU[/TD] [TD]220,150[/TD] [TD]133,832[/TD] [TD]353,982[/TD] [TD]-86,318[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Germany[/TD] [TD]60,860[/TD] [TD]30,382[/TD] [TD]91,242[/TD] [TD]-30,478[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]US[/TD] [TD]35,291[/TD] [TD]45,278[/TD] [TD]80,568[/TD] [TD]+9,987[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] You may wonder why both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are unwilling to complete the TTIP, given the US trade figures below: [TABLE=class: cms_table, width: 500] [TR] [TD]Country[/TD] [TD]Imports ($m)[/TD] [TD]Exports ($m)[/TD] [TD]Total Trade ($m)[/TD] [TD]Balance ($m)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]EU[/TD] [TD]416,666[/TD] [TD]270,325[/TD] [TD]686,991[/TD] [TD]-146,340[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Germany[/TD] [TD]114,227[/TD] [TD]49,362[/TD] [TD]163,589[/TD] [TD]-64,865[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Two simple questions spring to mind from the trade figures above. Why are we worried in the slightest about the trade terms being "dictated" to us by a bunch of un-elected bureaucrats from Brussels whose masters have more to lose than we do? How did we let Germany dominate world trade, post WWII to the detriment of countries they tried to enslave? As Trump warned them: The Germans are bad, very bad. See the millions of cars they sell in the U.S., terrible. We will stop this. In 1950, the UK was the world's largest exporter of cars. It just shows what socialism and the EU has done to our car industry since. We need to fight socialism and the inevitable state interference in our private industries and let them compete on the world market. That is the way we will be forced to produce goods the whole world wants. "Necessity is the mother of invention". A maxim that has served our great country well for centuries. Soda water: Joseph Priestley, 1772 Hydraulic press: Joseph Bramah, 1795 Steam engine: Richard Trevithick, 1801 Glider: George Cayley, 1804 Tension-spoked wheel: George Cayley, 1808 Tin can: Peter Durand, 1810 Modern fire extinguisher: George William Manby, 1818 Electric motor: Michael Faraday, 1821 Waterproof material: Charles Macintosh, 1823 Cement: Joseph Aspdin, 1824 Passenger railway: George Stephenson, 1825 Lawnmower: Edwin Beard Budding, 1827 Photography: William Henry Fox Talbot, 1835 Electric telegraph: Charles Wheatstone & William Cooke, 1837 Chocolate bar: JS Fry & Sons, 1847 Hypodermic syringe: Alexander Wood, 1853 Synthetic dye: William Perkin, 1856 Bessemer process: Henry Bessemer, 1856 Linoleum: Frederick Walton, 1860 Sewage system: Joseph Bazalgette, 1865 Modern Torpedo: Robert Whitehead, 1866 Telephone: Alexander Graham Bell, 1876 Light Bulb: Joseph Swan, 1880 Steam turbine: Charles Parsons, 1884 Safety bicycle: John Kemp Stanley, 1885 Pneumatic tyre: John Boyd Dunlop, 1887 Thermos flask: Sir James Dewar, 1892 Electric vacuum cleaner: Hubert Cecil Booth, 1901 Disc Brakes: Frederick William Lanchester, 1902 Stainless Steel: Harry Brearley, 1913 Military tank: Ernest Swinton, 1914 Television: John Logie Baird, 1925 Catseye: Percy Shaw, 1933 Jet Engine: Frank Whittle, 1937 Electronic programmable computer: Tommy Flowers, 1943 Hovercraft: Christopher Cockerell, 1953 Automatic kettle: Peter Hobbs, 1955 Float Glass: Alastair Pilkington, 1959 Hip Replacement: John Charnley, 1962 Carbon fibre: Royal Aircraft Establishment engineers, 1963 Collapsible baby buggy: Owen Maclaren, 1965 ATM: John Shepherd-Barron, 1967 World Wide Web: Tim Berners-Lee, 1989 Wind-up radio: Trevor Baylis, 1991 Steri-spray: Ian Helmore, c. 2008 I love our country...

If only we were as quick and successful as the EU, at negotiating trade deals....

You're far too clever for me...

I rang up Sky and said I wanted to cancel my subscription and leave in March 2019. They said no problem, but after I leave, I will have to keep paying the subscription for another two years, I won't be able to watch Sky Sports and during this time, they will have the right to tell me which channels on BBC I can watch....

Brexiteers already got their way using a concept known as democracy. Suck it up, Scotty. The Scots remained part of the UK and we all got the Tories running the show. If people have a chance to exercise their vote on any of these issues, the reality may change. In the meantime, it would be nice if some on here would stop whining...

Sally Jones killed in a drone strike. Good news...

Another little snippet to depress the traitors...

How cute...

More confirmation of how corrupt the EU is, here. Tip of the iceberg, in my opinion. All I can say is we should get the hell out of Dodge, ASAP. In charge of human rights, FFS...

When you're a troll, the argument doesn't really matter. It's more about insulting posters and getting a hard on when they bite. Luckily I have him on ignore, at least while no one quotes him. Boring ***t with time on his hands to post 13,000 times on the internet because his work colleagues obviously have him on ignore as well. He needs this forum for a modicum of the respect he fails to command in the real world with his winning personality, so by all means continue the dialogue. You are obviously more committed to care in the community than I am, although thanks for making the obvious point in your post, to show what a tool he is.

It's interesting to look at the contribution the UK makes to the EU budget and the disproportionate number of UK staff working in the bloated EU institution we are getting ripped of by, which exists increasingly for it's own purpose, not that of it's citizens.

Looks like it'll be WTO rules then, according to the FT: Screw the EU and stop the direct debit in 2019. D!ck them around for the next 12 months and then walk away.