sadoldgit

I seem to remember a while ago you getting quite shirty when I alluded that you might be racist. I have read your recent posts and can quite happily now say that I think you are a racist.

Okay Nigel Farage, time to come clean. I really didn't have you pegged as a Saints fan though.

Lets look at this in a different way. Would we be worse off or better off without bigoted racists?

What do you expect them to do? Go on a James Bond course and become part time spies for us? I suspect that the average Muslim has no more idea what is going on with the terrorists than you or I.

Was this Sour Mash or Batman? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35888748

threesome

Of course there will be more attacks. I wouldn't at all be surprised if there isn't one here by the end of the year. I still don't see how closing the borders is going to stop further terrorist attacks. What about closing down the Internet too? As for upping the terror anti, who knows, but again, if you think that closing borders makes us any safer, I think you are wrong. Why Belgium? Maybe because Brussels is the HQ of the EU?

stockings

snake

Yes it was a glib response. But we are two people who support the same football club exchanging emails on an internet football forum. Do you really expect either of us to have a solution to a problem that has stumped people whose job it is to find solutions to these extremely complex issues? Going way back in this thread I seemed to have upset you by saying that it is time for the killing and the bombing to stop and for us (The West) to find other ways to deal with these issues. Not long after Parliament voted to bomb Syria. Wonderful, that has helped hasn't it? Not once did I say that I have a solution but I did say that it would be helpful perhaps if we stopped the aggression in the Middle East. I also agree with those who want to work to try and find a solution that doesn't involve further bombing and killing. You disagree it appears and want to carry on with the bombing. Fine that is your view. I made fun of you because you seem irritated that I don't have a solution. Interesting to read that it is "your plan."

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I am sorry I didn't realise it was incumbent upon me to solve the Middle East crisis. As you seem to have cracked it I suggest that you hot foot it up to Downing Street and share it with Mr Cameron. Let me know how you get on.

I hear what you are saying Verbal but although ISIS might not involve themselves in Israel the Israelis still have their hands full with the Palestinians etc.

Exactly! Lets not get into anyone's maidenhead!

But once again you seem to ignore the fact that these people aren't sitting in a squat in Syria waiting for a drone strike. The cells are spread far and wide and seemingly operate independently. There are probably a number in this country just waiting to set up ops as we speak. We have been making it clear that terrorism will not be tolerated and we have been dealing with it harshly yet this morning body bags are being filled with innocent people yet again, and so it will go on.

It was Maidstone and at no time did I say that Maidstone was the same as Cologne.

I see to remember you saying a while back that they would never negotiate and the only way to deal with them was to fight them (that is, kill them)?

It is quite simple. The aim of the IRA was to kick the Brits out of Ireland and to create a complete Republic. They killed innocent people in a terror campaign that failed. They were never going to succeed and they finally decided that terror wasn't the way forward (although sadly killings still happen but not on the scale that they did before). ISIS want to destroy the West and are employing terrorist tactics to further their aims. They will fail of course and at some point they will see that unless they are prepared to see hundreds more of their own people die by their own hands that they will need to have a rethink. The alternative is that this killing will go on and on for many years to come and they will be no nearer to bringing The Infidel to their knees.

I seem to remember having this discussion before. How do you propose to deal with the many terrorist cells that are scattered all over the place and who are not conveniently located in Syria where they are an easier target?

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I wonder who is was at some point that laughingly suggested that we negotiate with the IRA? After all, wasn't it our policy not to talk to terrorists? Add to that all of the terrorist organisations all over the world who have ended up at the negotiating tables over the years. You may think it laughable but there are plenty of senior politicians in this country who feel that we are better of talking than bombing. Even if we cant deal with ISIS directly we can work harder with others to try to dry up their support and rally those within Islam who might have some sympathy for their cause. As I said before, we need to find a way to live together and to do that we have to stop being seen as a threat to the Middle East.

I wish I had an answer. I would be a very rich man. But to continually use violence to fight violence only lead to more senseless deaths. We need to find a way to live together otherwise this butchery will just go on and on and on. ISIS are not the only problem but they are clearly a big problem. They will not achieve their aim and at some point the penny will drop. At some point those who are willing to blow themselves up will see that their sacrifice, martyrdom or whatever you want to call it actually does not achieve anything. That clearly isn't going to happen any time soon but it isn't helping that we (The West) keep doing things that play into the terrorists hands and provide a ready supply of suicide bombers.

Or Billy No Spuds Mates! Although that is not strictly true. My oldest mate is a Spud, be he lives in that well known den of Spuds supporters, Southend!

Its ok, he is having his usual pop at me. Trouble is he hasn't got a solution other than killing all of the terrorists so I am not sure how that is going to work.

I live in deepest darkest Kent. Never seen anyone wearing a Spuds shirt and don't know any Spuds supporters here. I know of one other Saints supporter, two plastic Mancs, a Notts Forest fan, two West Ham fans, two Arsenal fans and I have seen a few people in Arsenal shirts around.