Mewsta Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Just after some thoughts really! I work in an IT department in London and the company want me to be on call on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years Eve and New Years day. I don't have anything contractually tying me in to being on call as its a need that has only arisen this year from the business changing. The offer they have made me is £50 inconvenience a day (so effictively just to have my phone switched on) and time and a half for any call out I receive. Personally I don't think it's worth it and £50 isn't gonna stop me going down the pub on these days and getting rat arsed. However I wouldn't have a clue what to ask for..... Anybody got any thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1980 Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Ask them for £100 per day. Also, what are the chances of getting called out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip87 Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 I would doubt that they'll pay you if they find out you're 'rat arsed' when you should have been on call. I'm pretty sure that being on call means you should be in a fit state to go to work should the need arise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 well it will cost them at least £800 to have a contractor for those days, so quote that at them and work back from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Depends very much what is included in your terms and conditions in respect of your contract. PM with details and I will get back to you Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Tell them you will do it for half of what a contractor gets, plus unlimited supplies of marmalade covered sponge cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poshie72 Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Just after some thoughts really! I work in an IT department in London and the company want me to be on call on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years Eve and New Years day. I don't have anything contractually tying me in to being on call as its a need that has only arisen this year from the business changing. The offer they have made me is £50 inconvenience a day (so effictively just to have my phone switched on) and time and a half for any call out I receive. Personally I don't think it's worth it and £50 isn't gonna stop me going down the pub on these days and getting rat arsed. However I wouldn't have a clue what to ask for..... Anybody got any thoughts??? But its not just a case of having your phine switched on. You cant plan to do anything, i.e visit relatives etc in case you are called out, so effectively you are at their disposal for the day. if it were me I would want at least paying the going rate for each day they would want me on call plus extra for each time I am called out. If they contracted it out they would have to pay per day for the contractors anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 I am on call 365 days a year, so being called out over xmas isn't a problem. I usually tell them, if I am capable of driving, I will. If I am drunk you'll have to pick me up. If I don't want to go for any reason, I say I'm away in Cornwall for a couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 If I don't want to go for any reason, I say I'm away in Cornwall for a couple of days. This is the crux of the matter really IMO. What if you had made plans ie going to Cornwall? How much would you ask for to cancel? Your employer will have a budget for this. If it isn't in your T's & C's I, like others have said, think you should ask for quite a lot more than they are offering. Three of those days are bank holidays and the other is widely considered the party night of the year. So even if you can't be arsed with the festivities yourself, you will be enabling someone else to do so. It is more about how important those dates are to someone else who does mind working, as opposed to yourself who doesn't. I personally would ask for at least treble time, or even double time and 4 days leave in looe (I think that's in Cornwall). see what I did there? Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 I am on call 365 days a year, so being called out over xmas isn't a problem. I usually tell them, if I am capable of driving, I will. If I am drunk you'll have to pick me up. If I don't want to go for any reason, I say I'm away in Cornwall for a couple of days. Your not a Girl by Any chance Dog.:smt047 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Just after some thoughts really! I work in an IT department in London and the company want me to be on call on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years Eve and New Years day. I don't have anything contractually tying me in to being on call as its a need that has only arisen this year from the business changing. The offer they have made me is £50 inconvenience a day (so effictively just to have my phone switched on) and time and a half for any call out I receive. Personally I don't think it's worth it and £50 isn't gonna stop me going down the pub on these days and getting rat arsed. However I wouldn't have a clue what to ask for..... Anybody got any thoughts??? Treble time for Holy Days (that covers Good Friday and Christmas Day). Double time for other Bank Holidays Let the arguing ensue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Exile Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Just after some thoughts really! I work in an IT department in London and the company want me to be on call on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years Eve and New Years day. I don't have anything contractually tying me in to being on call as its a need that has only arisen this year from the business changing. The offer they have made me is £50 inconvenience a day (so effictively just to have my phone switched on) and time and a half for any call out I receive. Personally I don't think it's worth it and £50 isn't gonna stop me going down the pub on these days and getting rat arsed. However I wouldn't have a clue what to ask for..... Anybody got any thoughts??? I'm on call Boxing Day & News Years Day for an IT company too... I get £2.55 per hour on-call retainer (works out to £61.20 per day), if I get called I get paid time and a half from the moment I get called until I arrive home after resolving the issue plus a one-off "inconvenience" payment of £150 per day.... So that should give you an idea of what you can ask for!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 (edited) Treble time for Holy Days (that covers Good Friday and Christmas Day). Double time for other Bank Holidays Let the arguing ensue! Holy or not, they are bank holidays. Christmas Day = Someone wanting to be with their kids and spouse (and pretending to like them). Boxing Day = Someone visiting family that they haven't seen all year (and pretending to like them). New Years Eve = Someone wanting to Partay, with like minded people (and pretending to like them) New Years Day = Someone wanting to simply chill and contemplate what the year ahead will bring (and pretending that it will be better than the crap one just gone). Think of it in those terms and DO NOT let on that you are only up for it because you have no friends. Oh yeah, I should probably mention that I have had a very bad week. Edited 12 December, 2008 by hamster forgot to write "crap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 I'm on call Boxing Day & News Years Day for an IT company too... I get £2.55 per hour on-call retainer (works out to £61.20 per day), if I get called I get paid time and a half from the moment I get called until I arrive home after resolving the issue plus a one-off "inconvenience" payment of £150 per day.... So that should give you an idea of what you can ask for!! Woah well done that man. Maybe Im No Sinner could help out here too? What are you paying your AirCon engineers to be 'on call' around this time of year INS? My SIL is an Air Con engineer and rakes it in over BH's. But apparently good air con guys are "like gold dust" (his words not mine), whereas someone who simply "turns it off, and turns it back on" (his words not mine) are ten a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 I am on call 365 days a year, so being called out over xmas isn't a problem. I usually tell them, if I am capable of driving, I will. If I am drunk you'll have to pick me up. If I don't want to go for any reason, I say I'm away in Cornwall for a couple of days. What happens if you get a call passed to you from say...Padstow..? Do you virtually convalesce elsewhere, say in Inverness, too just at the right moment..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Our guys get £133 a week on call, plus if they get called out they get a min 4.5 hr O/T if over an hour. All depends on what your supporting, how many users are utilising yr system, and what calls you might get. If you can remote into your systems ask for a laptop and 3g card, thats what we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewsta Posted 12 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Cheers for the info guys... in relation to a couple of questions, im supporting 300 users worldwide (UK, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Sydney & Los Angeles). There is nothing in my Contract regarding being on call at all, as it's a new business need just arisen..... Sooo i think the way forward is to tell them I want the same amount as a contractor would get if they went external for it!! Also Pip..... regarding the rat arsed comment, i was merely using it as an example that they need to offer me enough to take on the work and £50 in my eyes isn't for bank holidays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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