Mr X Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Just back from game, worse than shocking cant think of a word that does it justice! If Pearson was still here Lowe would have sacked him by now, so I ask why is it any different for poorvliet? because the prep school prat appointed him thats why imo! anybody have any different theorys? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Just back from game, worse than shocking cant think of a word that does it justice! If Pearson was still here Lowe would have sacked him by now, so I ask why is it any different for poorvliet? because the prep school prat appointed him thats why imo! anybody have any different theorys? :mad: Because Lowe has hung his coat firmly on the Poortvillet hook. His business and football reputation and credibility is at stake here. He took a massive gamble that has failed. He will be the last person to realise it (or at least admit it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Just back from game, worse than shocking cant think of a word that does it justice! If Pearson was still here Lowe would have sacked him by now, so I ask why is it any different for poorvliet? because the prep school prat appointed him thats why imo! anybody have any different theorys? :mad: I don't think he would have sacked him because: a) I honestly don't think we would be in this position under Pearson, b) I don't think he would have brought in some of the players Jan has (Gasmi WTF??) c) I don't think we would have seen such dire performances (particularly at home) d) I don't think we would have played such one dimensional and predictable football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 anybody have any different theorys? :mad: 1. Lowe still believes in the manager. 2. We don't have the money to pay him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 2. We don't have the money to pay him off. False economy me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Because Lowe has hung his coat firmly on the Poortvillet hook. His business and football reputation and credibility is at stake here. He took a massive gamble that has failed. He will be the last person to realise it (or at least admit it) What would you say is our plan B? cos poorvliet certainly hasn't got one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Because Lowe has hung his coat firmly on the Poortvillet hook. His business and football reputation and credibility is at stake here. He took a massive gamble that has failed. He will be the last person to realise it (or at least admit it) How has he failed? We are playing attractive, passing football woth a young team of exciting prospects, just like he promised [/sarcasm] **** off and die Lowe and Wilde, and take that Dutch pot smoking clown with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 How has he failed? We are playing attractive, passing football woth a young team of exciting prospects, just like he promised [/sarcasm] **** off and die Lowe and Wilde, and take that Dutch pot smoking clown with you. I second that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 What would you say is our plan B? cos poorvliet certainly hasn't got one I've been saying there is no Plan B since the end of August... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I've been saying there is no Plan B since the end of August... okay hypothetically what should be plan b? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 okay hypothetically what should be plan b? For Lowe, or for JP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 For Lowe, or for JP ? both, sorry to be a pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Just back from game, worse than shocking cant think of a word that does it justice! If Pearson was still here Lowe would have sacked him by now, so I ask why is it any different for poorvliet? because the prep school prat appointed him thats why imo! anybody have any different theorys? :mad: tbf in the past when things havnt looked too rosy with a manager lowe has been quick to act (rightly or wrongly) so i dont think that criticism can be angled at him,but.......but it seems for some reason that he wont with JP.i could be wrong but i just think he is going to persevere with JP whatever the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 tbf in the past when things havnt looked too rosy with a manager lowe has been quick to act (rightly or wrongly) so i dont think that criticism can be angled at him,but.......but it seems for some reason that he wont with JP.i could be wrong but i just think he is going to persevere with JP whatever the outcome. I agree. Short of Capello or Mourihno approaching Saints wanting to work for nothing for 'the challenge' JP will be here until the end of the season unless he walks or its clear the team have lost faith in him - and i see no evidence of that ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 both, sorry to be a pain I dont reckon Lowe has a plan B, to be honest. He really has tied his fate to JP's, in my opinion, because he got rid of a manager that might have offered a lot more (pearson) to indulge his pet theories and ego. JP could maybe admit to himself he doesnt have good enough players for "total football" and start opening his mind to alternative methods of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Just back from game, worse than shocking cant think of a word that does it justice! If Pearson was still here Lowe would have sacked him by now, so I ask why is it any different for poorvliet? because the prep school prat appointed him thats why imo! anybody have any different theorys? :mad: +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I agree. Short of Capello or Mourihno approaching Saints wanting to work for nothing for 'the challenge' JP will be here until the end of the season unless he walks or its clear the team have lost faith in him - and i see no evidence of that ATM. what annoyed me most today about the defeat is that we simply didn't put an acceptable level of effort in which suggests the team have indeed lost faith in his methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 tbf in the past when things havnt looked too rosy with a manager lowe has been quick to act (rightly or wrongly) so i dont think that criticism can be angled at him,but.......but it seems for some reason that he wont with JP.i could be wrong but i just think he is going to persevere with JP whatever the outcome. I think that is because this time Lowe is intrinsically linked to the Poortvliet appointment and the underlying strategy. An admission that Jan has failed would inevitably be a wider admission of failure on the part of Lowe, something which I very much doubt he would face up to, particularly at this stage of his current tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I dont reckon Lowe has a plan B, to be honest. He really has tied his fate to JP's, in my opinion, because he got rid of a manager that might have offered a lot more (pearson) to indulge his pet theories and ego. JP could maybe admit to himself he doesnt have good enough players for "total football" and start opening his mind to alternative methods of play. yeah I would rather see poorvliet step down on his own accord than face the humiliation of a sacking as I really do believe he isnt be allowed to manage by lowe, I agree admiting to himself that total football doesnt cut it in this league would be a good start also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I don't think he would have sacked him because: a) I honestly don't think we would be in this position under Pearson, b) I don't think he would have brought in some of the players Jan has (Gasmi WTF??) c) I don't think we would have seen such dire performances (particularly at home) d) I don't think we would have played such one dimensional and predictable football. I can't support the dross seen today, no-one could, but I don't agree with your post. We played some (equally) shocking football under Pearson (Hull away, Burnley at home). That said if we had an option to change JP then we should consider it. I don't think Lowe will because a) we've got no money (for payoffs, new manager or associated players) b) it is Lowe's strategy and he'll stick by it. Ironic though that being 'trigger happy' is a stick often used to beat Lowe and when you want him to..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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