spyinthesky Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 In the process of doing some research on another matter i came across this piece attributed to Alan Pardew in April this year. Apologies if it has been reported before but thought it was interesting .................'Southampton had Walcott, Bale, Shaw, Lallana and it makes a huge difference. I know we will get players through here but will we get an exceptional player? Southampton has a different type of catchment area. There is a big working class community but there are a lot of middle class kids who have a good education. The players who come out of Southampton are quite intelligent and there might be something in that. We need to put more intelligence into our players here. it is very important to not just look after the football side of it but to also bring the right personalities through. We want them to be level headed.'......... Interesting insight and reinforces our clubs on going philosophy to develop and educate players both on and off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 (edited) He didn't mention Shaw though did he - regarding being intelligent ; ) Edited 12 August, 2014 by St.Patrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 He may as well have said "Geordies are thick". Bet that little speech went down really well up there!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bear Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Having had the pleasure of recently working with two interns who went to school with Calum Chambers, I am reliably informed he is thick as pig **** and Luke Shaw not much better. I wouldn't put much stock in our players' education off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 12 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2014 It didn't !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 (edited) He's right. I think this is an interesting area and set to grow in importance as clubs get more savvy about lashing out tens of millions on the next big player. Technical skills deployed with intelligence are far more devastating than without. But it is not all about IQ - personality and character are equally important to effectiveness both in the immediate moment during games and also to sustaining form and careers. The worlds top players have a blend of: 1)technical skill, 2)athleticism, 3) high IQ and 4) the right personality traits. MLT for example had 1,3,4 in abundance but perhaps less athletic by nature and slightly lazy, unambitious personality. This stopped him becoming a word-stage, world beater but allowed Saints to benefit for an entire career of his mesmeric technical genius. Roy Keane had a fair amount of 1, a lot of 2 and 3 and, crucially, a ruthlessly psychopathic 4. Powerful mix that made him a leader and dynamo and successful at club level. Maradona - had 1 massively, 2 a lot, and less of 3, and is a basket case re 4: hence his career trajectory. The top clubs recognise these dimensions and do their homework for the most part not only on footballing skills but IQ and personality of players. Ferguson was good at this. Luke Shaw - a bit dim by all accounts - this could limit his ceiling as a player ultimately. Edited 12 August, 2014 by adrian lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 He's right. I think this is an interesting area and set to grow in importance as clubs get more savvy about lashing out tens of millions on the next big player. Technical skills deployed with intelligence are far more devastating than without. But it is not all about IQ - personality and character are equally important to effectiveness both in the immediate moment during games and also to sustaining form and careers. The worlds top players have a blend of: 1)technical skill, 2)athleticism, 3) high IQ and 4) the right personality traits. MLT for example had 1,3,4 in abundance but perhaps less athletic by nature and slightly lazy, unambitious personality. This stopped him becoming a word-stage, world beater but allowed Saints to benefit for an entire career of his mesmeric technical genius. Roy Keane had a fair amount of 1, a lot of 2 and 3 and, crucially, a ruthlessly psychopathic 4. Powerful mix that made him a leader and dynamo and successful at club level. Maradona - had 1 massively, 2 a lot, and less of 3, and is a basket case re 4: hence his career trajectory. The top clubs recognise these dimensions and do their homework for the most part not only on footballing skills but IQ and personality of players. Ferguson was good at this. Luke Shaw - a bit dim by all accounts - this could limit his ceiling as a player ultimately. Thus again confirming Rooney is not among the worlds top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 In the process of doing some research on another matter i came across this piece attributed to Alan Pardew in April this year. Apologies if it has been reported before but thought it was interesting .................'Southampton had Walcott, Bale, Shaw, Lallana and it makes a huge difference. I know we will get players through here but will we get an exceptional player? Southampton has a different type of catchment area. There is a big working class community but there are a lot of middle class kids who have a good education. The players who come out of Southampton are quite intelligent and there might be something in that. We need to put more intelligence into our players here. it is very important to not just look after the football side of it but to also bring the right personalities through. We want them to be level headed.'......... Interesting insight and reinforces our clubs on going philosophy to develop and educate players both on and off the field. Ray it don't matter in the end. Thick as pig **** or well educated (lol) the only thing that matters is $$$$$ this and getting turned at England squad call ups. Email me OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Having had the pleasure of recently working with two interns who went to school with Calum Chambers, I am reliably informed he is thick as pig **** and Luke Shaw not much better. I wouldn't put much stock in our players' education off the pitch. Shaw maybe - but Calum chambers is far from thick - you can tell that from the quality of his answers and the way he handles himself in interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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