Valenciennes

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Orleans 1 up at half time. VA defender tried to chest it back to the keeper. Orleans I tercepted the ball, and passed it into the centre to be put in.

Saying Orleans looked likely from that flank would be overstating it. They had a couple of glimpses, as they had a glimpse on the break once. Louchet hasn't had much to do.

Not that VA have been miles better, but we're clearly the dominant team. They started with, and maintained, more urgency than usual. Having Abi once again gives more of a focal point. 

A nice through ball to Courtet on 20, resulted in a ball across to Abi, only for the Orleans defender to get to the it first. A strong header went over around 30, to be followed by another header, on 36 hitting the bar. 

Courtet was left in the middle of the box a few mins before the break. He chested it down, only to snatch it wide. He had a lot more time and space than he thought. He had snatched an effort well wide earlier on, after it had rebounded to him. 

VA have to at least keep their pace for the second half. We've seen heads drop before, after defensive errors. There's no need for it, as there's plenty of time to turn things round.

[ChristopheVAFC]

Well... It's been a difficult week right to the end...

I couldn't go to the stadium and didn't see the match, but unfortunately we lost again tonight...

Valenciennes 0-1 Orleans...

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

VA fail to find the gear to drive to success.

VA motor to towards the foot of the table.

Taxi for SR!

Oh, the motor puns are all there to celebrate Toyota's links with the club.

VA came out brightly enough in the second half. Abi managed a couple of touches, to get it under control through on goal only to put it wide. El Hadary took an extra touch before shooting, where an earlier effort looked more likely. At the other end Orleans found themselves through on goal, a good dribble through the defence going wide.

The game began to dip after that. Moulin brought on 3 subs on 65 and another 2 on 75. An Abi effort is the only thing that comes to mind.

VA have struggled to look coherent with the basics this season. It's no surprise that they always look worse when they chase the game, and have too many attackers on.

Our Rento was one of those coming on in the 75th minute. His effort was put off by Abi being in close proximity. The longer it went, you could see it weighing on the players. They're all too familiar with this.

With VA pushing up, Orleans had a couple of breaks, but couldn't take advantage of any of them. They preferred to manage the game by milking each foul and goal kick. This always infuriates Courtet, so often trying to get VA back into a game. So, he picked up a yellow again for that.

Big boos at half time, and more boos at full time.

A broader picture is that VA had chances to win it, only to be undone by another defensive blunder. There were positives. But clutching at them, considering VA's resources, doesn't reflect well on SR.

[ChristopheVAFC]

Hello friends !

please read the press revieuw today:

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National : «rien ne nous sera épargné», défaites, point en moins, sale semaine à Valenciennes - La Voix du Nord

National League: "Nothing will be spared us," defeats, points deducted, a bad week in Valenciennes

Beaten after largely dominating Orléans on Saturday, Valenciennes concluded a complicated week in many respects, marked by the loss of a point in the standings due to a forfeit.

Stéphane Moulin struggled to find the right words, Rémy Boissier resigned himself to "spending another two days brooding," while Jean Louchet sighed with helplessness. "We could replay this match ten times, we wouldn't lose it," raged the northern goalkeeper. Against Orléans, the Valenciennes players were hit hard by the cruelty that football can sometimes be capable of: despite a flurry of chances and the legitimate feeling of having done everything right, except for being clinical, they must now cope with the immense frustration of a defeat.

This could have been just another frustrating match if this defeat hadn't capped off an already unpleasant week, a far cry from the festive atmosphere surrounding the game celebrating the 25th anniversary of the first Yaris to roll off the Toyota assembly line in Onnaing. Seven dark days began in Le Puy a week earlier, where Valenciennes suffered a heavy 3-0 defeat after conceding an improbable goal just before halftime. And then, as is often the case with Valenciennes, off-field issues intruded: seven weeks after the incidents during the match against Sochaux, the club paid a heavy price for the outburst of anger from some of its supporters who had gathered around the pitch, preventing the game from being completed.

After a very long wait, living with a sword of Damocles hanging over their heads, Valenciennes (VA) lost the match (3-0) and had a point deducted from their league position. While the club is considering appealing this decision, at the risk of a harsher penalty, putting this episode behind them and accepting the new standings to look ahead is undoubtedly the least bad option.

"We're going to have no luck this year, I've understood that for a while now. I've never experienced anything like this, we never get that little bit of luck that comes our way." Stéphane Moulin, VAFC coach

Terrible weather

"We're having a week where we're down to minus one," laments Stéphane Moulin. "We're going to have no luck this year, I've understood that for a while now. I've never experienced anything like this, we never get that little bit of luck that comes our way." The Valenciennes coach doesn't know the half of it: one day at a time, but a week has seven, and the second blow came on Friday with the release of a video by YouTuber Romain Molina, who launched a scathing attack on the club's management. More than the content itself, it mainly confirmed a well-known situation: there's a lot of backstabbing going on internally, and the atmosphere, certainly not helped by the team's results, is particularly toxic between the various factions within the club.

All of this is quite far removed from the pitch and all the positive aspects, notably Bryan Passi's contribution in the air, which could have been highlighted in the match against Orléans, a match that capped off a very unpleasant week. But when the tide isn't turning... "I just want to be in Rouen to play another match," Jean Louchet said before leaving Hainaut. That's probably the best thing to do.

[BARCELONASAINT]

your club are touting out Marks Inchaud to an American team, this is the 4th player Valenciennes have tried to entice the American team to take this month! It sounds to me the club are desperate to claw some money back in.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, ChristopheVAFC said:

Hello friends !

please read the press revieuw today:

National League: "Nothing will be spared us," defeats, points deducted, a bad week in Valenciennes

Beaten after largely dominating Orléans on Saturday, Valenciennes concluded a complicated week in many respects, marked by the loss of a point in the standings due to a forfeit.

Stéphane Moulin struggled to find the right words, Rémy Boissier resigned himself to "spending another two days brooding," while Jean Louchet sighed with helplessness. "We could replay this match ten times, we wouldn't lose it," raged the northern goalkeeper. Against Orléans, the Valenciennes players were hit hard by the cruelty that football can sometimes be capable of: despite a flurry of chances and the legitimate feeling of having done everything right, except for being clinical, they must now cope with the immense frustration of a defeat.

This could have been just another frustrating match if this defeat hadn't capped off an already unpleasant week, a far cry from the festive atmosphere surrounding the game celebrating the 25th anniversary of the first Yaris to roll off the Toyota assembly line in Onnaing. Seven dark days began in Le Puy a week earlier, where Valenciennes suffered a heavy 3-0 defeat after conceding an improbable goal just before halftime. And then, as is often the case with Valenciennes, off-field issues intruded: seven weeks after the incidents during the match against Sochaux, the club paid a heavy price for the outburst of anger from some of its supporters who had gathered around the pitch, preventing the game from being completed.

After a very long wait, living with a sword of Damocles hanging over their heads, Valenciennes (VA) lost the match (3-0) and had a point deducted from their league position. While the club is considering appealing this decision, at the risk of a harsher penalty, putting this episode behind them and accepting the new standings to look ahead is undoubtedly the least bad option.

"We're going to have no luck this year, I've understood that for a while now. I've never experienced anything like this, we never get that little bit of luck that comes our way." Stéphane Moulin, VAFC coach

Terrible weather

"We're having a week where we're down to minus one," laments Stéphane Moulin. "We're going to have no luck this year, I've understood that for a while now. I've never experienced anything like this, we never get that little bit of luck that comes our way." The Valenciennes coach doesn't know the half of it: one day at a time, but a week has seven, and the second blow came on Friday with the release of a video by YouTuber Romain Molina, who launched a scathing attack on the club's management. More than the content itself, it mainly confirmed a well-known situation: there's a lot of backstabbing going on internally, and the atmosphere, certainly not helped by the team's results, is particularly toxic between the various factions within the club.

All of this is quite far removed from the pitch and all the positive aspects, notably Bryan Passi's contribution in the air, which could have been highlighted in the match against Orléans, a match that capped off a very unpleasant week. But when the tide isn't turning... "I just want to be in Rouen to play another match," Jean Louchet said before leaving Hainaut. That's probably the best thing to do.

Very fluffy, apart from the confirmation around Molina's interview.

"We're going to have no luck this year, I've understood that for a while now. I've never experienced anything like this, we never get that little bit of luck that comes our way." Stéphane Moulin, VAFC coach

Luck has had nothing to do with abject recruitment, tactics, cohesion or standard of play. VA are exactly where they are purely on merit. They've done nothing to deserve a higher position in the standings. Exactly as they deserved where they ended up last season.

Jean Louchet sighed with helplessness. "We could replay this match ten times, we wouldn't lose it," raged the northern goalkeeper.

VA will find away to lose a lot more than he thinks. Clumsy penalties, poor clearances, underpowered back passes, and intercepted chested balls back to the keeper are only some of the recent highlights.

They were better against Orleans. But they've been very poor on a number of other occasions.

"there's a lot of backstabbing going on internally, and the atmosphere, certainly not helped by the team's results, is particularly toxic between the various factions within the club."

A blame game compounded by having a raft of people involved shirking responsibility. If only the team could turn the resources into results, so they could continue to get well remunerated for little apparent competence.

 

 

 

 

[Convict Colony]

21 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Luck has had nothing to do with abject recruitment, tactics, cohesion or standard of play. VA are exactly where they are purely on merit. They've done nothing to deserve a higher position in the standings. Exactly as they deserved where they ended up last season.

Jean Louchet sighed with helplessness. "We could replay this match ten times, we wouldn't lose it," raged the northern goalkeeper.

VA will find away to lose a lot more than he thinks. Clumsy penalties, poor clearances, underpowered back passes, and intercepted chested balls back to the keeper are only some of the recent highlights.

They were better against Orleans. But they've been very poor on a number of other occasions.

"there's a lot of backstabbing going on internally, and the atmosphere, certainly not helped by the team's results, is particularly toxic between the various factions within the club."

A blame game compounded by having a raft of people involved shirking responsibility. If only the team could turn the resources into results, so they could continue to get well remunerated for little apparent competence.

 

 

 

 

Exactly this.

The better managers make wins happen and eliminate luck as a factor, poor ones blame it.

[FredVaFC59100]

8 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Exactly this.

The better managers make wins happen and eliminate luck as a factor, poor ones blame it.

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