The Reform Thread

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Mixedkebab said:

Yes, they are humans, and most humans are cunty- you just don’t know any other cultures personally except your rural English cunty middle class pals.

Always trying to show off, but no-one cares what you say 😂

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

So you’re racist? Nice 

 

 

How does that make me a racist - the English aren't a race, they're an ethnicity?

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So any family that has roots in England for over 500 years, but that may have come from Norway or Germany, cannot possibly be "English" as they will not share the Anglo Saxon roots.

I would suggest you take a look at your own family tree as this may well preclude you.

That would be awful wouldn't it?

He's sounding very much like Hitler isn't he?

[badgerx16]

18 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

He's sounding very much like Hitler isn't he?

"If you were as blond as Hitler, as fit as Goering, as tall as Goebbels, as intelligent as Bormann, and with the eyesight of Himmler, you would be the perfect Aryan".

Edited 7 hours ago by badgerx16

[egg]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

On what planet am I losing this argument 😂

You guys have raised nothing except insults and pretending not to know what ‘English’ means

Well he asked you a question and replied with your usual leftist bollox.

That's not the sign of a bloke winning the argument. That's feet stamping. 

[badgerx16]

50 minutes ago, egg said:

Well he asked you a question and replied with your usual leftist bollox.

That's not the sign of a bloke winning the argument. That's feet stamping. 

I have actually asked 6 questions ;

At what point do immigrant families become entitled to claim "Englishness" ?

So what were they before 927AD ?

Where did all the non Anglo-Saxons go in that year ? 

As with my earlier post, were my wife's parents Scottish, Welsh, or English ? If they were Welsh and Scottish, what is my wife's ethnicity ?

So anybody descended from the Norman invaders isn't English ? 

Are Kernewek speakers not English ? 

 

And he accuses "leftists" of avoiding giving answers.

Edited 6 hours ago by badgerx16

[Osvaldorama]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

He's sounding very much like Hitler isn't he?

If ethnicity doesn’t exist, what was the Holocaust?

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

I have actually asked 6 questions ;

At what point do immigrant families become entitled to claim "Englishness" ?

So what were they before 927AD ?

Where did all the non Anglo-Saxons go in that year ? 

As with my earlier post, were my wife's parents Scottish, Welsh, or English ? If they were Welsh and Scottish, what is my wife's ethnicity ?

So anybody descended from the Norman invaders isn't English ? 

Are Kernewek speakers not English ? 

 

And he accuses "leftists" of avoiding giving answers.

Im not answering because your questions are fucking daft. 
 

You’re pretending not to know what an English person is, like a school child would do 

 

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Im not answering because your questions are fucking daft. 
 

You’re pretending not to know what an English person is, like a school child would do 

 

You are not answering because the questions show up your hypocrisy and ignorance.

Edited 5 hours ago by badgerx16

[Farmer Saint]

18 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

If ethnicity doesn’t exist, what was the Holocaust?

Where did I say ethnicity doesn't exist?

[Farmer Saint]

28 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Im not answering because your questions are fucking daft. 
 

You’re pretending not to know what an English person is, like a school child would do 

 

If they're so daft you should be able to smash them out the path.

My guess is a low IQ individual as yourself is just not a serious person, and so can't answer his "daft" questions.

Edited 5 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

you’re doing it again 

 

 

Go and look in a dictionary. 
 

English and Ethnicity are very very clearly defined words. 

If someone were to say that they are English, I've not seen a post here that is saying that it doesn't exist. This seems to be something you're projecting.

There has been discussion on what "English" means to different people.

The definition you agree with is :-

"The English are an ethnic group and nation native to England, defined historically by a shared ancestry originating from Anglo-Saxon and Celtic roots, as well as a common language, culture, and history."

And this is why I asked. 

"The English are an ethnic group and nation native to England." - If native means place of birth, that's anyone born here.

"...defined historically by a shared ancestry originating from Anglo-Saxon and Celtic roots." - People born/ citizens of here can and do share in the history/ culture of the nation, adding to it as lots of people have done since it started being a nation.   

If, in your view, they are to be added together, then it really falls apart. The Celtic Britons included what would be Welsh and Cornish speakers for a start. So there goes the common language, and that shared ancestry goes across different countries. 

The Anglo-Saxons might have got a unified England going. There's a massive influx of cultures across the period from when the Angles and the Saxons arrived. But, to give you your definition, you are English if you can trace your line back to Alfred or even AEthelstan.

Except there were the successful invasions by the Danes and the Normans. Events that very much shaped England. But that's not included in your definition. So, anyone post-Norman conquest or possibly any number of Scandinavian raids and settlers don't count as English. 

There's not even a union flag to wave, under your definition, as that didn't make an appearance until the 17th century. Perhaps they can tie other people's comments about leftists to lamp posts instead.