Has Parsons been sacked yet ?

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Feel free to post his 'exact' job specification and responsibilities as I asked previously in this thread.

You have completely missed my point! My point is that we do not know those things exactly!

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

You have completely missed my point! My point is that we do not know those things exactly!

You don’t even know what a CEO does so pipe down hun 

[Matthew Le God]

18 hours ago, Turkish said:

Plenty of places to look, Chat GBT, linkedin, even google. It really isn't hard. 

'not all CEOs have the same duties" 😂

 

18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Turkish fail! You clearly didn't follow your own advice!

Try typing this into Chat GPT...

"Does every CEO have the same duties at football clubs?"

 

 

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

You don’t even know what a CEO does so pipe down hun 

Try using your own advice!

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

Try using your own advice!

What does a CEO do?

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Turkish said:

What does a CEO do?

Still not taking your own advice!

You said...

"Plenty of places to look, Chat GBT, linkedin, even google. It really isn't hard."

Chat GPT says

Varying Duties (depending on club type):

Sporting Oversight: At some clubs, the CEO is heavily involved in football matters (transfers, hiring managers), while others delegate this to a Director of Football or Sporting Director.

Academy & Infrastructure Projects: Some CEOs are deeply involved in youth development or stadium expansions, especially at growing clubs.

Community Engagement: Particularly at community-owned or smaller clubs, CEOs might also handle outreach and fan engagement directly.

Examples:

At Manchester United, the CEO (currently Omar Berrada, incoming from Man City) focuses on global strategy, revenue, and brand — with football decisions delegated.

At a League Two club, the CEO might be more hands-on across all departments, including football operations.

So in short: core leadership, financial, and strategic roles are standard, but the level of involvement in football decisions and daily operations varies significantly.

 

[Turkish]

26 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Still not taking your own advice!

You said...

"Plenty of places to look, Chat GBT, linkedin, even google. It really isn't hard."

Chat GPT says

Varying Duties (depending on club type):

Sporting Oversight: At some clubs, the CEO is heavily involved in football matters (transfers, hiring managers), while others delegate this to a Director of Football or Sporting Director.

Academy & Infrastructure Projects: Some CEOs are deeply involved in youth development or stadium expansions, especially at growing clubs.

Community Engagement: Particularly at community-owned or smaller clubs, CEOs might also handle outreach and fan engagement directly.

Examples:

At Manchester United, the CEO (currently Omar Berrada, incoming from Man City) focuses on global strategy, revenue, and brand — with football decisions delegated.

At a League Two club, the CEO might be more hands-on across all departments, including football operations.

So in short: core leadership, financial, and strategic roles are standard, but the level of involvement in football decisions and daily operations varies significantly.

 

MLG needs chat GBT to tell us the CEO of Man United and the CEO of Barrow might not do EXACTLY the same job 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

proof that education does not equate to intelligence 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Matthew Le God]

The radio silence is deafening @Turkish

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Turkish said:

MLG needs chat GBT to tell us the CEO of Man United and the CEO of Barrow might not do EXACTLY the same job 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

proof that education does not equate to intelligence 😂😂😂😂😂😂

So you agree football CEOs don't do the same job! Well done. So what on earth are you disagreeing with! 

[Oldandtired]

Probably about time we had another area to the forum... spats, squabbles and fights. I'm sure they're interesting to those involved but possibly to the rest on here...meh.

Edited yesterday at 11:44 by Oldandtired

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

So you agree football CEOs don't do the same job! Well done. So what on earth are you disagreeing with! 

Tell us the difference between the jobs of the CEO of Chelsea and the CEO of Pontefract Collieries

This’ll be a good ‘en 😂😂😂😂 

[Weston Super Saint]

52 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

You have completely missed my point! My point is that we do not know those things exactly!

And yet, you've stated unequivocally, despite not knowing what his job is, that he WASN'T responsible for the football on offer this season.

How have you reached that conclusion given you have admitted you don't know what he does?

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Tell us the difference between the jobs of the CEO of Chelsea and the CEO of Pontefract Collieries

This’ll be a good ‘en 😂😂😂😂 

Ignored the question again. My point was CEOs do not have the same duties. You found that funny. Now you seem to agree they do. So what exactly are you disagreeing with now that you agree with my original point?

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Ignored the question again. My point was CEOs do not have the same duties. You found that funny. Now you seem to agree they do. So what exactly are you disagreeing with now that you agree with my original point?

There is difference between duties and responsibilities 

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

And yet, you've stated unequivocally, despite not knowing what his job is, that he WASN'T responsible for the football on offer this season.

How have you reached that conclusion given you have admitted you don't know what he does?

Utter bullshit. Strawman fallacy. Misrepresenting what I've said. Show me a post of mine where I have "unequivocally said he was not responsible for the football on offer this season". 

[Turkish]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Utter bullshit. Strawman fallacy. Misrepresenting what I've said. Show me a post of mine where I have "unequivocally said he was not responsible for the football on offer this season". 

Oh here we go, he’s wheeled out the strawman line right on cue 😂

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

There is difference between duties and responsibilities 

How do you know Ankersen, Bitcon or Kraft for example weren't responsible for some of the things you are putting on Parsons?

Edited yesterday at 11:56 by Matthew Le God

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Turkish said:

Oh here we go, he’s wheeled out the strawman line right on cue 😂

Well he mispresented what I said. So that makes it a strawman fallacy. You should know, you do it regularly enough! Do you think I said what he claimed? If so in what post?

[sfc4prem]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Utter bullshit.

Bit rude! Moderators?

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, sfc4prem said:

Bit rude! Moderators?

I did not attack him, just his lies.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Utter bullshit. Strawman fallacy. Misrepresenting what I've said. Show me a post of mine where I have "unequivocally said he was not responsible for the football on offer this season". 

As below. It was pointed out to you that he led the club to 'abject' failure.

On 14/05/2025 at 20:33, wild-saint said:

Led the club to relegation and abject failure.

You decided you didn't agree with this and asked what warranted his sacking - despite being told it was his 'abject' failure.

On 14/05/2025 at 20:36, Matthew Le God said:

I asked for exact. What in his job remit warrants his sacking?

Given your black or white understanding of the world, ergo you believe 'unequivocally' he was not responsible for the football operation and subsequent 'abject' failure.

Unless you're going to admit you were wrong and that he is responsible for the football operations after all?

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I did not attack him, just his lies.

😂 you’re one of the biggest bullshitters on here 

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

How do you know Ankersen or Kraft for example weren't responsible for some of the things you are putting on Parsons?

What have I put on Parsons?

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I did not attack him, just his lies.

There are no lies, Matthew, just your inability to grasp the truth.

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

As below. It was pointed out to you that he led the club to 'abject' failure.

You decided you didn't agree with this and asked what warranted his sacking - despite being told it was his 'abject' failure.

Given your black or white understanding of the world, ergo you believe 'unequivocally' he was not responsible for the football operation and subsequent 'abject' failure.

Unless you're going to admit you were wrong and that he is responsible for the football operations after all?

Bullshit. Nothing in that post is me saying he was not at fault for the football this season. Asking for evidence someone is responsible for something does not mean you hold the position that you believe that they are not. So it is not me with a black and white view of the world, it is you as you can't see the middle position of withholding belief until evidence supports a position for or against!

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

There are no lies, Matthew, just your inability to grasp the truth.

See my previous post.

[Matthew Le God]

15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Ignored the question again. My point was CEOs do not have the same duties. You found that funny. Now you seem to agree they do. So what exactly are you disagreeing with now that you agree with my original point?

Still waiting for an answer.

[Turkish]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Still waiting for an answer.

I’m waiting for you to tell me what I was putting on Parsons. Or were you misrepresenting my views, which I believe makes it a strawman 👏👏👏😂😂

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Turkish said:

I’m waiting for you to tell me what I was putting on Parsons. Or were you misrepresenting my views, which I believe makes it a strawman 👏👏👏😂😂

I asked first.

[Turkish]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

I asked first.

You don’t know what a CEO does

you had to use chat GBT to tell us the difference between the Man United CEOs role and the Barrow CEOs role

now you’re creating strawman arguments you so often accuse others of doing so

another bad day on saintsweb MLGX they are become all to common aren’t they.

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Turkish said:

You don’t know what a CEO does

you had to use chat GBT to tell us the difference between the Man United CEOs role and the Barrow CEOs role

now you’re creating strawman arguments you so often accuse others of doing so

another bad day on saintsweb MLGX they are become all to common aren’t they.

You ignored the question (again)

You continue to get the Chat GPT name wrong

You suggested using AI to show that CEOs do have the same roles. I quoted from them that they do not show that.

Turkish fail after Turkish fail!

 

[Weston Super Saint]

6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Bullshit. Nothing in that post is me saying he was not at fault for the football this season. Asking for evidence someone is responsible for something does not mean you hold the position that you believe that they are not. So it is not me with a black and white view of the world, it is you as you can't see the middle position of withholding belief until evidence supports a position for or against!

Jesus wept.

You asked what 'exactly' warranted him being sacked, despite being told it was the abject failure of the football team.

The rest is just your inability to grasp what a CEO is responsible for.

I'll leave it there, you're clearly not bright enough for the most simple constructs.

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

Jesus wept.

You asked what 'exactly' warranted him being sacked, despite being told it was the abject failure of the football team.

The rest is just your inability to grasp what a CEO is responsible for.

I'll leave it there, you're clearly not bright enough for the most simple constructs.

Asking for evidence someone is responsible for something does not mean you hold the position that you believe that they are not.

Why are you not capable of grasping that?

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Asking for evidence someone is responsible for something does not mean you hold the position that you believe that they are not.

Why are you not capable of grasping that?

The 'evidence' is that he is the CEO of the club / company.

You not understanding what a CEO is responsible for is on you to educate yourself. 

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

The 'evidence' is that he is the CEO of the club / company.

You not understanding what a CEO is responsible for is on you to educate yourself. 

Bullshit, I know the role thanks. What a CEO is responsible for varies from club to club. Some core responsibilities apply across the board for all CEOs, but there are big differences across the role from club to club.

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Bullshit, I know the role thanks. What a CEO is responsible for varies from club to club. Some core responsibilities apply across the board for all CEOs, but there are big differences across the role from club to club.

You know what chat GBT told you.

Unfortunately you asked it the wrong question because you don't understand the simple concept.

 

[Doctoroncall]

Forever the Strawman, never the Steelman. 
 

 

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said:

You know what chat GBT told you.

Unfortunately you asked it the wrong question because you don't understand the simple concept.

I did what @Turkish said I should do and it ended up showing him to be wrong.

I haven't even told you what question I asked it. So what makes my question wrong, how do you know it was wrong and what should  I have asked?

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

I did what @Turkish said I should do and it ended up showing him to be wrong.

I haven't even told you what question I asked it. So what makes my question wrong, how do you know it was wrong and what should  I have asked?

Judging by the chat GBT response that solely mentions 'duties', I have surmised that you asked about the 'duties' of a CEO as opposed to the 'responsibilites' which will be very different.

Again, more 'evidence' to show you don't understand the issues being discussed.

That's OK, we've come to expect it from you now, Matthew. No one is angry, nor even disappointed any longer.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Turkish fail! You clearly didn't follow your own advice!

Try typing this into Chat GPT...

"Does every CEO have the same duties at football clubs?"

 

Looks like my assertion was correct.

[Turkish]

15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Bullshit, I know the role thanks. What a CEO is responsible for varies from club to club. Some core responsibilities apply across the board for all CEOs, but there are big differences across the role from club to club.

Clearly this isn’t true 

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Judging by the chat GBT response that solely mentions 'duties', I have surmised that you asked about the 'duties' of a CEO as opposed to the 'responsibilites' which will be very different.

Again, more 'evidence' to show you don't understand the issues being discussed.

That's OK, we've come to expect it from you now, Matthew. No one is angry, nor even disappointed any longer.

The same applies to responsibilities. 

While CEOs share core responsibilities (like financial sustainability, governance, and leadership), the emphasis and scope of those responsibilities vary depending on the club’s size, structure, ownership, and current goals. One CEO might be a strategist, another a day-to-day operator, it’s not one-size-fits-all.

Kraft or Ankersen may have had responsibilities people are trying to use as something to tarnish Pasons with. We just do not know!

The very nature of Saints being a part of a wider group makes things less clear in regard to who is in charge of strategy.

 

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I did what @Turkish said I should do and it ended up showing him to be wrong.

I haven't even told you what question I asked it. So what makes my question wrong, how do you know it was wrong and what should  I have asked?

Clearly this isn’t true

[Matthew Le God]

6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Looks like my assertion was correct.

See last post.

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Clearly this isn’t true

See last long post.

[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Judging by the chat GBT response that solely mentions 'duties', I have surmised that you asked about the 'duties' of a CEO as opposed to the 'responsibilites' which will be very different.

Again, more 'evidence' to show you don't understand the issues being discussed.

That's OK, we've come to expect it from you now, Matthew. No one is angry, nor even disappointed any longer.

It’s more of a surprise when he gets something right these days tbh. However seems I was right when I used this for him and it more apt now than ever 

[Turkish]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

See last long post.

I am glad we have been able to educate you the last 24 hours as to the role of a CEO. Despite the swearing and straw man arguments you made it does seem like you’ve learnt something which is great as self improvement is what we should all be looking to achieve. Congratulations.

[Saint86]

Well done guys 😂

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s more of a surprise when he gets something right these days tbh. However seems I was right when I used this for him and it more apt now than ever 

The same applies to responsibilities as it does duties. 

While CEOs share core responsibilities (like financial sustainability, governance, and leadership), the emphasis and scope of those responsibilities vary depending on the club’s size, structure, ownership, and current goals. One CEO might be a strategist, another a day-to-day operator, it’s not one-size-fits-all.

Kraft or Ankersen may have had responsibilities people are trying to use as something to tarnish Pasons with. We just do not know!

The very nature of Saints being a part of a wider group makes things less clear in regard to who is in charge of strategy.

 

 

[Weston Super Saint]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

The same applies to responsibilities. 

While CEOs share core responsibilities (like financial sustainability, governance, and leadership), the emphasis and scope of those responsibilities vary depending on the club’s size, structure, ownership, and current goals. One CEO might be a strategist, another a day-to-day operator, it’s not one-size-fits-all.

Kraft or Ankersen may have had responsibilities people are trying to use as something to tarnish Pasons with. We just do not know!

The very nature of Saints being a part of a wider group makes things less clear in regard to who is in charge of strategy.

 

Nope. Still not getting it.

I did my best. Unfortunately it just shows there are none so blind as those that don't want to see.

[Matthew Le God]

5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Nope. Still not getting it.

I did my best. Unfortunately it just shows there are none so blind as those that don't want to see.

Yet again, you fail to address anything in the post. Top avoidance!