26/27 Squad Profiling Needs

[SouthWalesSaints]

I write this from a good place, and I’d like to think an educated one as well. I’ve managed nearly 700 games and at the top end of non league football.  Managed professionals, ex pros, analysyts, sports scientists, been in the hat for the first round draw etc etc.  

I’ve also attended every game since December (my last job) and I’ve fallen in love with this team and our manager. But… we’re on the cusp of it all going tits up.  I’ll give you what I’ve seen and what i believe our issues are. 
 

Goalkeeper - I think it’s clear we’ve got a top one who is a big character, distribution has dropped off a cliff, and I think he doesn’t trust our back 4 without THB.  Long isn’t good enough, clearly by how little he’s risked in cup games. That’s worry number (1). 
 

Defence - Bree - gets booked to often, doesn’t overlap his winger enough and looks a shadow of the lad who wanted to earn his big contract. Manager clearly doesn’t rate Mads Roerselv or however you spell it, so like last season he’ll be flogged and we have no depth. (Issue2)  Wood & Stephens both good partners, reminds me of Claus when Svenson and Richards left look a fraction of the player without THB, have to sign a proper player... and replace 6/7 goals .. come on to that later oh and one that can start our build up (issue3). Like manning, Wellington is fine as back up, poor tonight though. 

 

Central midfield - Jander & Downes - top players can both run and look after the ball, nice balance between them.  Matsuki I think when we’re chasing games late on can play in there, but not ideal. Can’t see Bragg being a player for a top team in the league.  One paced, physically weak, doesn’t break lines and if we’ve got issue 3 of no THB we’re going to rely even more on our deeper midfielders to start building us up. We need a midfield player in the door like NOW.  Can’t believe that signing Dobbin was seen as more of a priority than a midfield player.  I think this is the biggest reason for our laboured start (issue4)

 

Wide players - Scienza and Edozie from left is very good. Former is our best one, will get 10 goals and assists. Happy, I personally like Archer more from left than edozie presume he wants to play central and has bigger wages so edozie as back up is fine. Like Bree will want to earn a new deal so he’ll play hard. There is a player in there, not sure we’ll see it but I think he’s working hard as I said and offers bits from bench.  Matsuki & Fellows - not got enough, huge huge issue.  Both can only go one way, both are slow to cross, both are back up players for me, and Matsuki is ahead of fellows as at least he offers aerial ability and physicality. We have a forward in Larin that needs crosses, can remember goals from left being scored. Oxford & Blackburn but can’t remember any time when balls come in quick from right low and hard. (Issue5)

10s - Azaz - with Larin our best player. So clever, makes stuff happen, takes risks, our Bruno Fernandes. Doesn’t care if he gives it away 10 times, because he’ll find a pass for a goal.  Dobbin - wrong profiling.. and this like mubamba worries me.  Physically weak, quick enough, can finish but again we had archer - 9 million wasn’t needed to be spent here. Like Archer he’s a second striker not an azaz replacement. So again like Peretz and Bree we still have no back up for azaz. So prepare him to be flogged like a horse again (issue6) 

Forwards - Larin is top, losing Stewart was a travesty.  I understand the fear of injuries but I can’t imagine at £30,000 per week for three years would be seen as wasted money ( 4 million quid ). When again we’ve signed Dobbin for 9 million.  Muamba, has been profiled wrong to replace Larins mins. He’s poor back to goal, and like Peretz, Bree & Azaz we have no back up striker to play that role which is a travesty. (Issue7) 

The biggest issue though is with the data of the team, something that surely Saints internally have looked at.  We need 80 goals this season minimum to get autos. You cannot get those numbers from this team.  No matter how you play out the maths even in best case scenarios. 
 

Armstrong/Stewart - lost 22 goals 

THB - 6 Goals

Charles - 5 goals  ( plus cup ) 

Somehow we’ve got to replace 33 goals from our team… 

Larin can score 20 so he’ll take Armstrong’s.  But making a case for 60 from the rest isn’t feasible.  Scienza and Azaz will get 15-20 between them.  We still need 40 goals from Matsuki, Fellows, Edozie, Divin, Downes, Jander, Dobbin.  Based on last season and I’d imagine that both Divin and Dobbin are on reduced mins we’d be lucky to get half the amount from those guys. It’s hard to make a case for 40 goals.  And the issue that our only goal scoring centre half is leaving. Manning can chip in so hopefully that continues. 
 

We have a lot of work to do in this last week, I’d even go as far to say that we need 4/5 players through the door and it feels massively unlikely.  Centre half, an 8, a right winger and a forward … if I’m being greedy a big mobile centre half who can play RB as well as CB. Konsa type profile.  The profiling is huge, we’ve signed two players this summer who don’t fit how we play. Dobbin as a 10 and Divin as a 9, so let’s hope spors gets the next ones right. 
 

Tonight was depressing. Onto Saturday. 

Edited 8 hours ago by SouthWalesSaints

[SaintNewForest]

We cannot have Sam Edozie coming on. We just can't. Hes utterly shite. 

We need:

A RB 

A CB (x2 if THB goes)

A CM

A Winger

At an absolute minimum. 

[IFHP]

Unfortunately we have too many players for the same position- a sign of how bad our recruitment has been.

We’ve 4 goalkeepers in Peretz, long, Ramsdale and Bazunu.

3 right backs in Bree, Roerslev and sugawara.

upfront we have Larin, Mubama, Downs, BBD. 
 

some how we need to off load players before we can strengthen where we need to.

Replacements for Charles, Stewart and if he goes TBH. 
 

 

[Saint86]

7 hours ago, SouthWalesSaints said:

I write this from a good place, and I’d like to think an educated one as well. I’ve managed nearly 700 games and at the top end of non league football.  Managed professionals, ex pros, analysyts, sports scientists, been in the hat for the first round draw etc etc.  

I’ve also attended every game since December (my last job) and I’ve fallen in love with this team and our manager. But… we’re on the cusp of it all going tits up.  I’ll give you what I’ve seen and what i believe our issues are. 
 

Goalkeeper - I think it’s clear we’ve got a top one who is a big character, distribution has dropped off a cliff, and I think he doesn’t trust our back 4 without THB.  Long isn’t good enough, clearly by how little he’s risked in cup games. That’s worry number (1). 
 

Defence - Bree - gets booked to often, doesn’t overlap his winger enough and looks a shadow of the lad who wanted to earn his big contract. Manager clearly doesn’t rate Mads Roerselv or however you spell it, so like last season he’ll be flogged and we have no depth. (Issue2)  Wood & Stephens both good partners, reminds me of Claus when Svenson and Richards left look a fraction of the player without THB, have to sign a proper player... and replace 6/7 goals .. come on to that later oh and one that can start our build up (issue3). Like manning, Wellington is fine as back up, poor tonight though. 

 

Central midfield - Jander & Downes - top players can both run and look after the ball, nice balance between them.  Matsuki I think when we’re chasing games late on can play in there, but not ideal. Can’t see Bragg being a player for a top team in the league.  One paced, physically weak, doesn’t break lines and if we’ve got issue 3 of no THB we’re going to rely even more on our deeper midfielders to start building us up. We need a midfield player in the door like NOW.  Can’t believe that signing Dobbin was seen as more of a priority than a midfield player.  I think this is the biggest reason for our laboured start (issue4)

 

Wide players - Scienza and Edozie from left is very good. Former is our best one, will get 10 goals and assists. Happy, I personally like Archer more from left than edozie presume he wants to play central and has bigger wages so edozie as back up is fine. Like Bree will want to earn a new deal so he’ll play hard. There is a player in there, not sure we’ll see it but I think he’s working hard as I said and offers bits from bench.  Matsuki & Fellows - not got enough, huge huge issue.  Both can only go one way, both are slow to cross, both are back up players for me, and Matsuki is ahead of fellows as at least he offers aerial ability and physicality. We have a forward in Larin that needs crosses, can remember goals from left being scored. Oxford & Blackburn but can’t remember any time when balls come in quick from right low and hard. (Issue5)

10s - Azaz - with Larin our best player. So clever, makes stuff happen, takes risks, our Bruno Fernandes. Doesn’t care if he gives it away 10 times, because he’ll find a pass for a goal.  Dobbin - wrong profiling.. and this like mubamba worries me.  Physically weak, quick enough, can finish but again we had archer - 9 million wasn’t needed to be spent here. Like Archer he’s a second striker not an azaz replacement. So again like Peretz and Bree we still have no back up for azaz. So prepare him to be flogged like a horse again (issue6) 

Forwards - Larin is top, losing Stewart was a travesty.  I understand the fear of injuries but I can’t imagine at £30,000 per week for three years would be seen as wasted money ( 4 million quid ). When again we’ve signed Dobbin for 9 million.  Muamba, has been profiled wrong to replace Larins mins. He’s poor back to goal, and like Peretz, Bree & Azaz we have no back up striker to play that role which is a travesty. (Issue7) 

The biggest issue though is with the data of the team, something that surely Saints internally have looked at.  We need 80 goals this season minimum to get autos. You cannot get those numbers from this team.  No matter how you play out the maths even in best case scenarios. 
 

Armstrong/Stewart - lost 22 goals 

THB - 6 Goals

Charles - 5 goals  ( plus cup ) 

Somehow we’ve got to replace 33 goals from our team… 

Larin can score 20 so he’ll take Armstrong’s.  But making a case for 60 from the rest isn’t feasible.  Scienza and Azaz will get 15-20 between them.  We still need 40 goals from Matsuki, Fellows, Edozie, Divin, Downes, Jander, Dobbin.  Based on last season and I’d imagine that both Divin and Dobbin are on reduced mins we’d be lucky to get half the amount from those guys. It’s hard to make a case for 40 goals.  And the issue that our only goal scoring centre half is leaving. Manning can chip in so hopefully that continues. 
 

We have a lot of work to do in this last week, I’d even go as far to say that we need 4/5 players through the door and it feels massively unlikely.  Centre half, an 8, a right winger and a forward … if I’m being greedy a big mobile centre half who can play RB as well as CB. Konsa type profile.  The profiling is huge, we’ve signed two players this summer who don’t fit how we play. Dobbin as a 10 and Divin as a 9, so let’s hope spors gets the next ones right. 
 

Tonight was depressing. Onto Saturday. 

Good post. 

I think (with a good season) I can see about 70 goals with the current players being feasible. Last season, Peretz was averaging circa 1 goal against per game... So really that should be enough. However this year the defence has been atrocious (Jander being missed a lot imho).

I will be very surprised if we do all the business the clubs wants to do tbh. There are just too many players they want out the door. Suspect we'll get 1 maybe 2 in, which will likely be a CB and CM.

On Dobbin Vs Stewart, and the 4M Vs 9M. I think that's slightly unfair as in reality we can expect to break even or make a profit on Dobbin. So realistically it's £4M on Stewart Vs likely comparable wages on Dobbin - and only one of those 2 players wanted to be here and wasn't a walking sick note. A better point is how exactly the club think dobbin is a back up for azaz (he is a different player being asked to do Azaz's role - which he then can't do as well as azaz), and did we have £9M to prioritise on that this summer - looks unlikely.

Edited 58 minutes ago by Saint86

[die Mannyschaft]

7 hours ago, SouthWalesSaints said:

I write this from a good place, and I’d like to think an educated one as well. I’ve managed nearly 700 games and at the top end of non league football.  Managed professionals, ex pros, analysyts, sports scientists, been in the hat for the first round draw etc etc.  

I’ve also attended every game since December (my last job) and I’ve fallen in love with this team and our manager. But… we’re on the cusp of it all going tits up.  I’ll give you what I’ve seen and what i believe our issues are. 
 

Goalkeeper - I think it’s clear we’ve got a top one who is a big character, distribution has dropped off a cliff, and I think he doesn’t trust our back 4 without THB.  Long isn’t good enough, clearly by how little he’s risked in cup games. That’s worry number (1). 
 

Defence - Bree - gets booked to often, doesn’t overlap his winger enough and looks a shadow of the lad who wanted to earn his big contract. Manager clearly doesn’t rate Mads Roerselv or however you spell it, so like last season he’ll be flogged and we have no depth. (Issue2)  Wood & Stephens both good partners, reminds me of Claus when Svenson and Richards left look a fraction of the player without THB, have to sign a proper player... and replace 6/7 goals .. come on to that later oh and one that can start our build up (issue3). Like manning, Wellington is fine as back up, poor tonight though. 

 

Central midfield - Jander & Downes - top players can both run and look after the ball, nice balance between them.  Matsuki I think when we’re chasing games late on can play in there, but not ideal. Can’t see Bragg being a player for a top team in the league.  One paced, physically weak, doesn’t break lines and if we’ve got issue 3 of no THB we’re going to rely even more on our deeper midfielders to start building us up. We need a midfield player in the door like NOW.  Can’t believe that signing Dobbin was seen as more of a priority than a midfield player.  I think this is the biggest reason for our laboured start (issue4)

 

Wide players - Scienza and Edozie from left is very good. Former is our best one, will get 10 goals and assists. Happy, I personally like Archer more from left than edozie presume he wants to play central and has bigger wages so edozie as back up is fine. Like Bree will want to earn a new deal so he’ll play hard. There is a player in there, not sure we’ll see it but I think he’s working hard as I said and offers bits from bench.  Matsuki & Fellows - not got enough, huge huge issue.  Both can only go one way, both are slow to cross, both are back up players for me, and Matsuki is ahead of fellows as at least he offers aerial ability and physicality. We have a forward in Larin that needs crosses, can remember goals from left being scored. Oxford & Blackburn but can’t remember any time when balls come in quick from right low and hard. (Issue5)

10s - Azaz - with Larin our best player. So clever, makes stuff happen, takes risks, our Bruno Fernandes. Doesn’t care if he gives it away 10 times, because he’ll find a pass for a goal.  Dobbin - wrong profiling.. and this like mubamba worries me.  Physically weak, quick enough, can finish but again we had archer - 9 million wasn’t needed to be spent here. Like Archer he’s a second striker not an azaz replacement. So again like Peretz and Bree we still have no back up for azaz. So prepare him to be flogged like a horse again (issue6) 

Forwards - Larin is top, losing Stewart was a travesty.  I understand the fear of injuries but I can’t imagine at £30,000 per week for three years would be seen as wasted money ( 4 million quid ). When again we’ve signed Dobbin for 9 million.  Muamba, has been profiled wrong to replace Larins mins. He’s poor back to goal, and like Peretz, Bree & Azaz we have no back up striker to play that role which is a travesty. (Issue7) 

The biggest issue though is with the data of the team, something that surely Saints internally have looked at.  We need 80 goals this season minimum to get autos. You cannot get those numbers from this team.  No matter how you play out the maths even in best case scenarios. 
 

Armstrong/Stewart - lost 22 goals 

THB - 6 Goals

Charles - 5 goals  ( plus cup ) 

Somehow we’ve got to replace 33 goals from our team… 

Larin can score 20 so he’ll take Armstrong’s.  But making a case for 60 from the rest isn’t feasible.  Scienza and Azaz will get 15-20 between them.  We still need 40 goals from Matsuki, Fellows, Edozie, Divin, Downes, Jander, Dobbin.  Based on last season and I’d imagine that both Divin and Dobbin are on reduced mins we’d be lucky to get half the amount from those guys. It’s hard to make a case for 40 goals.  And the issue that our only goal scoring centre half is leaving. Manning can chip in so hopefully that continues. 
 

We have a lot of work to do in this last week, I’d even go as far to say that we need 4/5 players through the door and it feels massively unlikely.  Centre half, an 8, a right winger and a forward … if I’m being greedy a big mobile centre half who can play RB as well as CB. Konsa type profile.  The profiling is huge, we’ve signed two players this summer who don’t fit how we play. Dobbin as a 10 and Divin as a 9, so let’s hope spors gets the next ones right. 
 

Tonight was depressing. Onto Saturday. 

Very accurate assessment. I think Tonda gets players given to him which a purchased by the head scout bloke so he's stuck trying to make a team with misfits, players he doesn't really know their performance levels in positioning, technical skills, fitness and linking with other players only when they actually play a game. Too much trial and error going on similar to an U16 team at start of season who are 4 players short and a few mates filking the gaps.

I think Tonda and the coaches need to watch the game in row X to get a better perspective of the game. 

[die Mannyschaft]

1 hour ago, SaintNewForest said:

We cannot have Sam Edozie coming on. We just can't. Hes utterly shite. 

We need:

A RB 

A CB (x2 if THB goes)

A CM

A Winger

At an absolute minimum. 

Its ok if we were favourites to get relegated and just needed 46 points this season the team as it is would be fine but to say top 2 then you shopping list needs to be completed ASAP!!