Fabrice29

Intrigued to hear what this includes… I thought the whole point of us wanting new owners was because the previous one wasn’t building anything over the years he was here?

Edozie is 4 years younger than Tella and yet they’ve probably performed as well as each other at the top level. Edozie is also considered one of his countries best players of his age group and playing for England accordingly. He’s also started a Charity Shield match for one of the best sides in the country. Tella as far as I’m aware was not considered at that level. I don’t think comparing them is particularly fair, but if you’re going to do it, at least do it properly.

And if he doesn’t score in the first 3-5 games for us, then what? Dropped, and deemed not good enough, value gone, out on loan again? The lads put himself in a high status at Burnley so unless he wants to stay we should be taking the money. He’s not a rare player or a goal machine we can’t afford to lose. Clearly talented and if he wants to make it here then great but if not then 10-15 million feels fine and reinvestable.

That’s a hell of a leap and a weird barometer to judge a player by. Although not as weird as all the comparisons to other players and their values in this thread. I’m sure they’ll be unfairly used as a stick to have a pop at the owners though when he’s sold for 10-15 million. Don’t really see the point of him staying at us, can only be a lose lose situation for him personally because there’s a slim chance he becomes the cult hero he is at Burnley so take the move and opportunity when you can. Don’t think it’s a massive loss for us either. Players like him are not rare, it’s the opportunity and patience and shown that’s the rare thing and he’s taken advantage of a good situation at Burnley. Fair play but no big loss to us if/when he goes. Wouldn’t begrudge him forcing that move through at all.

We won all 3 games that week including one before the City game. There was no sudden impulse to change tactics or reverting of game plans but shock horror a game in the middle of the week and between 2 others including one against relegation rivals a couple of days later did involve some change of personnel and even more of a shock a game against one of the best sides in country meant we had a different plan to the ones against Palace and Everton. But yeah, some weird conspiracy theory that for a reason nobody has explained yet, Jones thought ‘ah go on Ruben, I’ve just picked up my first win and we have a massive game at the weekend, but you take charge of this one fella.’ probably feels much more logical.

Experience and lack of experience isn't something I would particularly judge people on so no, I'd have no issue with it specifically.

Meghoma is going to be some player, thought he was the stand out Saints player yesterday. Lots of the others were bullied and that can happen at this level so no shame in that especially as I thought technically at times Saints looked the more comfortable on the ball. Reckon there will be more out of that Saints team making it than the West Ham team in a few years but tough match up against one of the strongest youth teams in the country right now.

Not a tournament fwiw.

I didn't say anything about having little confidence in them and their selections fwiw.

Have I missed all the experienced/proven signings the club have made since SR came here then? Literally almost every appointment and signing they have made have been untried.

Think his ridiculously good job at Luton was probably just slightly ahead of his religious beliefs in reasons to employ him. This tweet is slightly disingenuous to be fair. It was explained at the time that the owner and manager did the recruitment (manager stating what qualities he wanted and owner finding those players) because they had unexpectedly lost their head of recruitment and would be a January only thing. So no, it shouldn't be an owner/manager decision making process going forward.

Yes because everything we know about Nathan Jones tells us he would happily sit back and let an assistant he's never worked with before take control of the team set up on his first meeting with one of the greatest managers of all time. He was a passive, let others take control type of person wasn't he? Utterly moronic if you believe that tosh.

The reason for this is fairly obvious isn’t it? They’re new to the league and have shown themselves to tire very quickly when starting games (Wolves a massive example of this) so they have to be managed and their output has to be maximised in smaller sections of the game. Starting with them and not leading after an hour would leave us with needing to find goals at the end of the game with less productive players on the pitch. Think Selles has made the calculation he’d rather stay in the game and attack it at the end than be in a position of being incapable of attacking it when needing to. The starting 11 chat/importance is massively over done with fans. Especially when the squad really is much of a muchness in terms of actual output. Almost every single combination has played at some stage this season and guess what? They’ve all looked pretty clueless for most of it. There’s no magic formula so I’ve no issue with Selles trying to maximise our chances by breaking the game up into sections and targeting the parts of the game he thinks is best.

Continues to amaze me people still hope/expect anything different in games like this. These are not the games we are going to get points in and certainly not ones that will give performances to be hopeful about. We are a team which until January was specifically recruited for a manager who prioritised off the ball qualities for 4 years. January also didn’t address that issue, instead focusing on physicality over creativity (Maybe Alcarez aside at a push). We have been incapable of breaking down teams who set up to defend first all season (apart from set pieces) so just hope to god the majority of fixtures we have left will be up against teams who have to be proactive against us and offer us chances to play our best form of game.

This thread should be pinned at the top of the board so everyone can refer to it when wondering about the credibility of a poster. Delusion of the highest order from many.

3 fan myths that need dispelling... 1) We have a strongest 11 2) You can and should play the strongest 11 from the start, including 3 times in a week. 3) Winnable games on paper.

Rinse and repeat.

Oh he's 100% giving his only audience now exactly what they want. He's a slave to his audience now and that audience wants to be outraged and wants to be fed a certain narrative. The Lineker stuff was quite funny because his audience and his platforms (GB news etc) talk about free speech but also found themselves in a position that their narrative matched with having to back Lineker but still needing an enemy and a conspiracy. The BBC obviously stepped into that role nicely and MLT threw in the conspiracy about his own personal experience (the fact that it didn't stand up to any scrutiny of course isn't an issue with that audience). I see Mark Lawrenson has also happily obliged in giving the audience exactly what it wants too recently. Going on GB news and calling for all pundits to be sacked. He and MLT probably don't even believe the stuff they say, certainly initially, but it's a path they will find hard to come back from and immediately rules you out of working for any credible platform in the future, which coincidently continues to suit the narrative they want, until the audience eventually dries up of course, which will be a sorry sight.

I think the team is in a really precarious position in terms of mindset. It's had two good results in a row, 3 clean sheets in 4 and is starting to ever so slightly turn a corner. The last thing it needs is a baying crowd shouting "It's Brentford at home for goodness sake!!". Sadly, I think it'll get that but it could really do with a crowd that recognises it's need, is positive from the start and backs whatever game plan is set out rather than what it did against Leicester which was get incredibly upset at a short goal kick.

Completely different game to the ones we've picked up points in recently and the type of game we normally struggle in. Onus will be on us to break them down so crowd needs to be patient and not get frustrated.

He can, and you don't have to listen to it, you're right. You're also allowed to listen to it and call it out for the nonsense that it is, if you want to.

This would be a reasonable take if A) Matt was sacked solely because of his views and two other pundits who didn't have those views weren't also sacked at the same time or B) If any of Wright, Scott, Shearer actually worked for Sky at the time.

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They've got every right to do what they please of course but what are they gaining from it? Who does it benefit? It's classless and can only frustrate and add further pressure to everyone.

Piss poor fanbase by the way. Booing Bednarek at the start, the whistling of Bazunu, screaming "kick it" at the lad despite the obvious fact they've been told not to do that straight away and kicking it at two massive CB's means it's only coming back anyway, the booing of Moi when he's subbed on, so embarrassing.