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Yes, they lost the first ever one in the 1976 Euro Final, and haven't lost one since.

These Euros have been awesome.

Semis and Final at Wembley though... because, you know, why not give the final rounds to a nation that can't actually host an entire tournament? :/

Yeah, they've missed a trick not resetting the yellows after the group, so you'd have to get booked in both knockout games to miss the semi. 2 yellows in 5 matches is nothing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/9920773/Southampton-manager-Mauricio-Pochettino-faces-Football-Association-charges-after-furious-reaction-to-late-penalty.html Pochettino?

I'm already bored with seeing that slightly inaccurate twitter rework, it's nice, but there are a few things wrong with both designs, most obviously the collars, the shape of the top panel and the away socks.

I was under the impression the white panel was for the sponsor not the brand logo, but there you go...

Expecting at the very least that there will be a plain back version of the home kit, which appears to have a striped back from the small bit teased - but there may not be any need for one it the striped shirt also has a panel on the back.

No, what will happen now is we'll chunter on about this until Tuesday, then when the thing is released, everyone else who has been ignoring the existence of this thread for the past 6 months will have an opinion, start a new thread for absolutely no reason, and then someone will lock this even though the away kit won't be out yet and the keeper shirts will follow (probably plain with a diagonal line on the sleeves). Then come some time in October when the Under Armour US teamwear catalogue for 2017/18 gets released I'll post a link to it here and away we go again, this time without Spurs kits to nick from because they're with Nike next season. Ho hum, circle of life.

They make loads irrespective. Also, I love that green shirt. It was iconic.

Last year it was just 3) and that was it.

You can see stripes through the open collar in the video, but that doesn't mean the whole back will be striped. This is the template, anyway.

And I'm still more narked that we're getting last year's Spurs away template...

FWIW it's a "white yoke" to use old school kit terminology...

Sports bra, not one of those fancy Victoria's Secret bombshell plus two cups ones. I think us getting plus two cups should be regarded as a good thing.

Maybe so, but he's started making bad, basic errors which he didn't used to.

Thing is, Wales players are succeeding with the same backgrounds and academy training, they've just got a better attitude and understand what it is to represent their country, which I'm not sure half the England players get. Also, what happened to Joe Hart to turn him into the nervous mess he was against Wales and Iceland? Wright and Dixon were convinced the problem with outfielders was over coaching and a lack of organic decision makers, but that doesn't explain Hart.

Neil Taylor's overlap in 10 yards of space gave Robson-Kanu the opportunity to do it, all the defenders assumed he was going to lay it off to Taylor and defended that. I was celebrating the goal before he even hit it, absolutely gobsmacked.

He's still only had half a decent season so far..! Stick to my Billy Sharp boosting for that one. I suspect (especially given that two of Wales' games happened at the same time as England's) that I've seen more Wales games than you. Allen's been below average but he knows he won't get dropped. Wales have got where they have precisely because they have limited resources but as a result everyone knows precisely what is expected of them and with Bale being basically ego-free as a world class player they've got a wild card if they need something magical (eg v Slovakia, England and N Ireland) and his leadership brings average players up to a particular standard. FWIW Joe Ledley was garbage against Russia as well. They're confident because they know they have nothing to lose, and because they aren't scared to make mistakes because the chances are they won't get dropped. But it's the limited resources and the joint commitment to getting the most out of it that's making the difference. And they still lost to England...

Joe Allen has been bloody AWFUL with the ball, comfortably Wales' worst player, keeps passing the ball to the opposition, and his lack of movement when the back 4 has the ball has narrowed their options loads when in possession. He's also been lucky to stay on the pitch in a couple of games with some useless tackles. Having said all that, they're all pretty much exempt from criticism for the miracle that's currently occurring. I mean, Hal Robson-Kanu has never done anything remotely like that in his life before.

I'm afraid you're just not very good at analysing circumstance.

Striped back, or at least the top of the back visible through the collar is striped... Also interested if these are the shorts... Nowhere on the shirt has a black background with white logo and there's a red/white side panel here...

Yup. Oh well, I'm sure we'll get used to it

I'd heard the white band was for the sponsor, which would be another way of looking at it.

Alarm bells ringing that their training wear only has ankle socks and no full length ones, which might mean the full length black socks in the Saints videos ARE also the away socks, so the bib kit leak could be accurate...