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Points deduction? Please, don't make me laugh!!!! A few people invaded the pitch and goad the away fans, happens all the time. I am not saying it's right, but calm down people. By most of your reckoning half a dozen teams will be getting points deducted after today. Wolves fans invaded the pitch at Barnsley... and confronted Barnsley fans... I wonder if they will get points deducted?

Rather than throw your toys out, hows about shutting me up by showing me up and giving me some examples of how Saints Trust represented their members in the last year? Right, definately off to the pub now.

And how TSA was left to rot and paid up members not represented, when the 'board' of the TSA jumped ship as soon as something else which might get them closer to the club, came up. Anyway, I am off to the pub now. Have a wonderful night! xx

The common fan would not be running the company. It would be no different from the existing shareholder relationship. When you buy shares in a company, it isn't a pre requiste that you could or owuld have to run the company. Well I don't agree with the common fan being on the board, I think regular open forums etc and a 'customer care' department are all that is needed. Some people live through rose-tinted glasses and still see themselves as 'fans' in the eyes of the business. The fact is, we are customers first and foremost. My problem is that we have seen this Club run into the ground by a clique of supposed businessmen. Exactly, so god knows what would happen in a boardroom who not only squabble, like it seems they did last night, but also don't know anything about running a football club! I'm strugglng to reconcile some of your posts on this with what you're saying now. I said from the start that if the Saints Trust had any other agenda other than getting one of them on the board, then I would possibly join. If you can tell me ONE time when the Saints Trust have represented their membership in the last year, then I would be pleased to hear it. Maybe I am wrong and they did communicate and ballot their members, who passed the motion to campaign for the council to buy the stadium, or for this 'fans ownership' . Maybe I am wrong and they really do have 838 active members? Maybe I am wrong and they have communicated with their membership in the last year. Maybe I am wrong and they are not using the Saints Trust name to massage their own ego's and cosy up as close to the board as possible. Maybe I am wrong and they have given their members good value for their membership. Then again, maybe I am not wrong.... Struggling again. Is it the uber fans you have a problem (as you're saying here) or do you have a problem with the concept??? My main issue is how the corrupt Saints Trust is being used as a vehicle for certain individuals to live their dream of running a football club. So first and foremost it is the 'uber fans' I have a problem with. However in a close second is the concept of having a fan on the board, I don't see a need for one individual to be privvy to things going on at the club, whilst others are kept in the dark. The amount of NDA's handed out at football clubs nowadays, it just wouldn't work. Some serious questions as hopefully it might flesh out some of the reasons for you thinking this way, as being honest whilst a degree of scepticism is to be expected here (as I think there are some very bug hurdles to jump over), I do think some of your way of thining is somewhat hypocricital and contradictory. My reasons are based on what Saints Trust or 'SISA' have done in the last few years. Saints Trust is a group of a dozen or so mates, with next to no active members. SISA is a group of half a dozen mates, with no active members. Neither has done anything other than interviews and release statements, which are on behalf of nobody but themselves and their own ideas. Nobody can try and tell me that either organisation represents their members, they are in it for themselves and nobody else. Now I challenge anyone to prove to me different.

Your right, if we are in level 8 then we would rely on a pool of 'fans' to get us going again, I just hope the people have the relevent skills and don't bully their way in, I also hope to god it's not the usual suspects, if it was then my football supporting days would be over. I couldn't support Eastleigh or any other team, so I guess I would go off elsewhere and find a new hobby. Once again, I don't have a problem with fans groups, I just don't want to see the usual suspects there and don't want people with no relevent skills having a say in the day to day running of the 'business'

The common fan is someone who has absolutely no experience in running a multi-million pound turnover company. I would hope that someone like Crouch ( only in the way of football loving local businessman ) would invest in setting up his own Ltd company. Fan input at non-league level is alot more appealing than at League 1 level. I am not completely 100% against supporters groups, I have said that from day 1, I am however 100% against the same old faces getting involved in Saints. As I said before, I won't set foot in ANY stadium owned or ran by any of our uber-fans. If we did go non-league and they did muscle their way in, i would do everything I could to stop it, if I couldnt? ....................... ..... i'd become a much better golfer.

I was just going to edit that post a bit as it could be seen as slightly hypocritical! It would be set up by a board of people who are not the Saints Trust and are not SISA or any other mickey mouse organisation. The members of the board would be whoever has the money to get the scheme off the ground, and they would choose a board of people based on their relevent skills to the role etc... not because they say they are a fan of the club and blah blah blah Lastly, going into the Wessex League also frightens me and I fear that I may be converted to an Eastleigh fan or find a new hobby, because you can bet your bottom dollar that if we go out of business, then the same usual suspects will be there setting up 'their' club again.

Get taken over by someone who has the business knowledge and all the relevent contacts to make it work for us..... .... even if their idea is to build the club back up again and sell it on for a profit. Basically I would take anything over a fans owned club, even starting all over again in the non-leagues. I also think that there would be sufficiant interest in a breakaway team if Saints Trust got their hands on the club, and invisage a similar team to AFC Wimbledon or FC United getting enough support. There is a perfectly good non-league ground to rent to get started, it would help Eastleigh out too... There is enough strong feeling about fan ownership, for every 1 person that supports their ideas, there is another 20 who absolutely dread the thought of the common fan getting their hands on a football club. FFS some wealthy and succesful businessmen have not been able to make us break even... so why would the Saints Trust? I won't set foot inside a stadium that Saints Trust, SISA or any other common fan has a stake in, and I don't think I will be alone.

To be fair to Derry, I admire the bloke for doing something constructive to try and raise some money, I just hope he pushes on with his own fundraising and doesn't get bullied out by the ST and SISA and doesn't get bullied into the crazy 'fan ownership' idea.

With a name like yours, surely you have a few buckets you can collect?

I'm not sure, but I will do everything in my power to rise to the challenge. I am waiting for my next door neighbour to get back from work, I saw him washing his car yesterday, so he must have a bucket.

Part of my business plan is to set up new water-borne links between Romsey and Southampton. I will arrange to borrow some canoes off 15th Romsey ( North Baddesley ) Cup Pack, and will lend them to people to paddle up the Test, into Southampton water and up the Itchen, where they can moor opposite the stadium. This is my main focus at this time, as I am sure you will agree... this is the single most important thing that need implementing right now. Sod admin.... we need canoes.

I have looked into this possibility. The Baddesley Arms is currently up for lease, I am pondering getting donations off people to apply for the lease and call is SGG Inn, or summit.

I have 3 buckets in my garage, and a washing up bowl, I will go and knock on the neighbours doors in a minute and try and collect some more buckets. COYR SSG

Get with the programme sweetcheeks... I am not dissing Derry. I am reffering to SISA and Saints Trust... I have just set up a group in exactly the same way they have, although mine is much bigger. :cool:

I am glad you see sense. I am willing to offer your group and Saints Trust 'members' a free membership to my new organisation. We now have 16,839 members. ( although 838 of them are unaccounted for )

Yes, Wednesday night is now, 'Saints Supporters Group Curry and a Beer for a fiver' night. I will sort the bouncer issue out, and I will also organise bucket collections... the person who collects the most buckets wins a lifetime membership for a friend.... infact all of the members recieve a lifetime membership for a friend. As a result of this, we now have 16,000 members in the space of 17 minutes. Which makes us one of the largest supporters groups in the world. I shall be meeting with Mark Fry tommorow and proposing that the Football Club is handed over to the Saints Supporters Group. I will be Chairman, I am sure you all agree I am best man for the job.

I wasn't, he wanted me on his show, who am I to say no. Sometimes when you are famous, you have to do things like go on chat shows and speak on behalf of your members.

I have just set up a Supporters Group, its called, erm, Saints Supporters Group ( SSG ) There are 8000 registered users on this forum, I have given everyone complimentry memberships, these are lifetime memberships and cannot be cancelled in any way. You don't need to worry about recieving spam or marketing mail / emails, infact you don't have to worry about ever hearing from me the other board members, we trust that all of our ideas will be agreed by our members, therefore we will carry on regardless. We might run a quiz at some point, and our official HQ is the Bedes Lea Tavern, where members can enjoy 2 Jaeger Bombs for £7.50 I now run the largest Saints Supporters Group and if I see any mention in the Echo or on other Supporters Organisation claiming that theirs is the largest, I will sue. I won't be setting up a website, there is no point, it would only be the odd blog or statement from me anyway. Now, must dash, I have interviews with Meridian, BBC, CNN, Sky Sports and The Graham Norton Show, don't worry, I will represent you all.

Am I missing something, I might be, I am hungover and a bit thick today... What is 'the way forward' ? Has it already been agreed? If so, what is it?

No chance, there will be some legal reason why he could never head any consortia that he has sold the business too. Having said that, he comes across very well in the press conferances, and no doubt would make an excellent figurehead/spokesperson for a football team.

Sorry buddy, I'll take some pictures and put them on Facebook for you to look at! ;-)

It is a f*cking disgrace and misleading that they claim to represent 1000 people, and I am not sure of the legality of it all as well. Nice to see Nick laying the blame for the Trust not working at the hands of the SaintsWeb forum.... just shows what a corrupt group the Trust is. The Trust don't have any members because they have done absolutely f*ck for their members. Have the Trust actually ever done anything to represent their members? When they come up with this grand idea of purchasing the stadium, did they contact their members and did they put it to a vote before pressing on with it? Have they consulted their membership base about anything? NO is the answer, the Trust is just a vehicle for a small group of mates to get themselves through the front door at St Marys and get their mugs on TV etc. SISA again is a small group of mates who use the name to get info etc and have special privelidges at St Marys. If SISA is a fans supporters group, how do I join then? I don't, because there is no such thing. Save Our Saints is the only decent group of people who are genuinely trying to do something to help. Fan Ownership? Don't make me laugh. I have emailed the club as well about my opinions.

.... well I am going! :cool: Tickets for Sunday for SRS! Now, let me get back to my festivities... a nice BBQ cooking a nice bit of English Beef. Keep St George in my heart!