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And they rate Ruddy more too. We could lob six mil at Norwich and they'd sell. (Not saying we should do that but my point is six million is tons for a keeper) Lets see what happens but seems like over spending to me. *and yes, MLG, I know he's just signed a new contract. P i ss off.

Six million for a teenage keeper with only L2 experience is simple lunacy. That said, I am guessing it's probably something two million up front and only six if we stay up and he gets 10 caps for England. Chances are we are negotiating the payment plan, Brum probably leaking the refusal to make them look strong. Either way I am not sure we should be spending that on potential in our first season back up.

I've calmed down. I save all my name calling for my favourite wally. Adam is currently a mini Saints legend and he has a lovely chance to shine next season. If he gets a mini montage on MOTD one week he's doing well. But in his position he is way back in the queue for England duty. And quite frankly I think that is the last thing he needs to worry about this season. Get out there and show em Adam.

I've got a bit of a cold at the moment.

Holt is a very good example because we are actually quite short on strikers and he still couldn't get in. Butland is a complete outlier and irrelevent to this discussion completely. My original point is basically Lallana is playing a position with boat loads of competition and is going to have to play out of his skin to be considered. I stick by it and I don't need you asking pointless questions about nothing. PS - you are a complete bell end.

Tell you what. Don't misquote me. Being given the "really mature" comment from an autistic freakshow really is never, ever going to bother me. Go away.

Agree with this, nice to debate with a normal human being. My comment about Lallana is that he is going to have to be on fire. This is attacking midfield we are talking about and during the Euros there were players on the bench and players on the beach already established in the Premier League that will feel they could be in with a shout in the next squad. He's going to have to score a lot of goals, or score some amazing goals, or break some assist records to really gather some momentum to get anywhere near the squad.

So what? We're talking about attacking midfielders. Rob Green doesn't go against my theory at all being that he was first choice keeper at the last fu cking world cup.

You so adore being a pedantic arseflap so here's some back. You do understand what the phrase "YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAID" means and what the phrase "I DIDN'T SAY YOU DID MENTION" means and how those two phrases are opposite to each other? Yes?

How on earth am I contradicting myself? Holt scored a decent return of goals but got nowhere near the England squad. Maybe if he'd scored 25 or 30 he would have finally got the call up instead of Carroll who got three or four or whatever it was or Defoe who got slightly more but not many. That is my point. Players from Norwich or Saints have to massively over deliver to get picked for England. That's how it goes. That's my point. True for Holt, true for Lallana. That's my point. No contradiction whatsover. You are a fuc kin g nutjob.

...and Holt scored more than Defoe and Carroll, both went to the Euros. Funny how life isn't like a computer game, isn't it.

Where did I mention 38 games you freak? I stand by what I said, although at no point do I mention 38 games.

Downing plays for Liverpool. Lallana doesn't. Holt scored 15 last season and got nowhere near the England squad. The point is Lallana is going to have to score a hatfull of goals and/or have a breathtaking season to get anywhere near the England squad, especially with the legion of established names of attacking midfielders already in front of him in the queue. Being "quite good" for Saints is not going to get him picked, unless there is some kind of plane crash with the current England squad on it.

Does it differentiate us from Man U, Liverpool or even Arsenal? If it is what it is then its not unique. It's a red shirt.

Seems like a pretty low return for being lumbered with an utterly sh it kit for a season.

In the Echo. On here. South Today. One piece on Sky Sports News because it is July and nothing else is happening (and they would have done something even if it was stripes again). No one outside of the Saints bubble will care.

Will it balls. No one will care and certainly not an innovation like the sash was. People don't half get carried away on here.

And quite right too. If you're playing second tier football you're not good enough for international football. Agree on Lallana. No compelling case for him to play for England. He might step up but competition for his position is fierce and can't see him improving that much. He'd have to score 15-20 goals next season.

Why on earth would all the best players in England be bumming about in the Championship? Deluded.

Jees. Lallana not that good. Cork not that good. Lambert not that good. J Rod the only one with a realistic chance because he's a striker, we're light on strikers and if he has a Beattie-like hot streak could easily get a run out in a friendly.

A thousand times this. Wheeze of the week, mate. So, you like a bit of chess then? etc.

Scrap money back, scrap guarantees?

Err, no. How about the agent is full of it and is talking up interest in his own player to get the best deal for his player, and to tout him about to any Premier league club. "Unnamed Premier League club" is agent code for "no club in particular" or "several clubs, none of which have made a firm move yet, but this might flush them out".

Jay Rod will play for England before Lallana, who I think never will. There. I said it.

Where have I said this?