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Statistically speaking two of the biggest underperformers of expected saves are Forster and Mccarthy. They are way below our level, even if you consider us a 13th-17th side. They are both relegation quality and need to be shipped.

Both our keepers are bad. No correct answer tbh.

Dunno what game you are watching. We were on top for most of it, one goalkeeper error and one goal deep in stoppage when we committed everyone up. Hardly a stuffing.

It really wasn't on sky

We pretending the IRA didn't act for a political cause, and didn't help in achieving their goals? I'm not commenting on the ethics of those goals. Also you seemed fine with dismissing the deaths of hundreds of innocents including children so a little late to claim moral high ground.

They did, if you remember they blew quite a few things up. As it happens, that probably helped give them some leverage in the ensuing peace deals. If they had just rolled over and let the British do what they wanted they probably wouldn't have been anywhere near as effective in the good Friday agreement. Good lesson for Palestine to learn, some might say.

The issue with the Poppy is it is linked to the British military. And while the military has certainly been on the right side of history (WW2 for example) it has also been on the wrong side a few times (atrocities in Ireland, India, Middle east ect.). For people from the UK we remember the good things our military has done but I don't blame an Irish person if our involvement in WW2 isn't the first thing that comes to mind when they think British Soldiers.

Linked to Lazio keeper: https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/05/18/report-southampton-eyeing-club-record-25m-signing-after-target-rejects-new-contract/ £25m on a keeper would be way out of our range so seems unlikely.

I'm happier with it in context. We need a striker and two attacking mids, assuming Ings doesn't sign. We are not a rich team, getting a player in for free who might normally cost ~£7m is more money in the bank for the other two attacking players

So your best guess is to take out the only means of fighting back the small oppressed group has and then hope that Israel, a country which has been driving Palestinians out of their homes for decades and murdering people in their thousands, will negotiate peace. Why? Why on earth would they do that? It's not a war with two sides, its one group being brutalised and murdered by another. If Palestinians had all the power and were oppressing Israeli's then my response would be the same. However its more like me getting a couple of little kicks in as I'm beaten to death, the context of the kicks matter. Again your goal is to push politics away, but that helps no one except you, and people like Fofana know that. You wanting them silenced is not a fair thing to request. The only way Palestine stand a chance is if the rest of the world helps, and that won't happen without changing public opinion.

Go on then. What is the answer? So far your answer seems to be to ignore it and hope it goes away and if anyone doesn't ignore it (for instance the lads from Leicester) you actively punish them for daring to speak up with "long bans". Sounds like your answer is to make it as "not your problem" as possible, kinda like BLM really. "Stop saying things I don't want to think about, I was comfortable in blissful ignorance"

Your immediate response is to blame the people who were killed in their hundreds and driven from their houses because in response people unrelated to them did a little property damage.

If only, unfortunately from this thread alone it evidently isn't the case.

Big claim from the person who's response to the displacement of Palestinians is "why didn't they just diplomacy it out, who needs houses"

I imagine they just agree with it. The best antidote for racism is to spend time around other races and footballers do that more than almost any other group. Doubt you get a huge number of racist footballers in this day and age, there will always be a few pricks though. If a white footballer declared they thought BLM didn't matter and black people needed to stop complaining and get on with the sport that would be fine, it's their point of view. Similarly it would be fine for people to, en masse, point out how that point of view is bad as that would be there opinion. And if they didn't want to buy products from that person/see them on TV then that is their choice. It's what people don't get about "cancel culture", calling someone out for saying something shitty is itself free speech.

Hmm, why weren't the group with 0 power able to settle it diplomatically against the one with a massive army and the backing of most of the western world... I wonder why they didn't think of that. Honestly, it's like talking to a child.

It says very clearly in the article you linked that the first violent act was the displacement of people from Al-Aqsa. Also, in what way does forcing people from their homes not justify fighting back. What were they supposed to do, just quietly go live on the streets while their possessions and livelyhoods were stolen. The Hamas rockets didn't kill a single person by all accounts, hardly seems like an overreaction to losing everything you own. Clearly Israel were the initial aggressors. The other issue with your comment is, even if Hamas did start it, that's on Hamas. That's not on the 58 children Israel has murdered. The terrorist group didn't get a kick, hundreds of innocent people got a kick. The terrorist group killed over 20 times less innocent people than the government. How can you possibly justify that?

You understand incredibly incorrectly. Troubles started when Israeli officials and militias tried to force Palestinians out of their homes in Sheikh Jarrah, homes that their families had owned for centuries but israeli invaders tried to demand rent for. Following that, Israeli police officers and radicals attacked a Mosque, Al-Aqsa, while they were praying for the final day of Ramadan. Two days later there were stories of Palestians throwing rocks and fireworks. Israel at the same time bombed the gaza strip killing 9 people including three children. Since then, the Israeli death tole I think is like 10. Israel over the last couple of weeks have killed over 200 Palestinians, including 58 children in the Gaza strip alone. One side is right. Israel knew it was impossible to claim Palestine was in the wrong because of how little power they have so instead they went with "two sides, complicated, anyone who takes a side is wrong, just don't talk about it" as their propaganda and with the support of a complicit media in the west, it has worked. Even the briefest examining of the facts shows who has the power and who is being fucked, but people can't be bothered to even look them up.

I don't know what you mean by an "issue at football". It is an issue that effects footballers, you'd need to have your head in the sand to have not noticed that recently. But Footballers have a platform, like american footballers in the US, they don't just have to talk on Football issues, they are some of the most listened to black people in the country, it's only natural they'd have something to say. Systemic racism is hard to really measure as to when you experience it. It tends to be more employment discrimination, prison discrimination, housing discrimination ect. than some rando yelling racial slurs in a pub. Therefore most people who miss out on a job, for example, due to their race probably won't even know it happened. But employment statistics bear it out clear as day. As for how to eradicate it, very good question without an easy answer. Education, mainly, plus encouraging people to mix a lot at a young age. For instance most of my mates who went to uni and mixed with loads of different races came back much less likely to be racist than people who stayed at home in my very white town and didn't really get to know anyone. Agreed regarding internet trolling and social media. I also don't really use it. I think its more a litmus test for issues than issues itself. Non-racists don't suddenly become racist when they get twitter, it just gives them a means. Banning twitter might stop the symptoms in some cases, but it wouldn't really solve the underlying issue. Regarding hamas, if your country is invaded, you are forced from your homes, your children are murdered by a government while minding their own business at some point you are going to fight back. I don't endorse terrorism but I also find it hard to blame people in that situation who have nothing else to turn to. I will say though, the Leicester lads weren't supporting Hamas, they were showing solidarity with the innocent people who died at the hands of Israeli aggression. People shouldn't blame jewish people for the actions of israel. Plenty of jews condemn israel. Attacking Israel, or standing up for Palestine, is not an attack on Jews in general. Therefore people who go after jews in london are scumbags, but that's not fair to lay on the doorstep of the Leicester lads who were talking up for a valid cause.

Regarding point one. Never, it seems much more of an issue online. That doesn't make it not an issue worth doing something about. Regarding point two. Very little, I think it is actually pretty useless and we need to do a lot more, but booing the kneeling is sending the message you don't care about the issue and just want people to get on with football, which is very counter productive. If anything people should do more. Also "far left loons" didn't cause anarchy, it was a mostly peaceful protest for a good cause that yielded results. Regarding point three, racism is a systemic issue, not a "bad egg" issue. Also I have next to no sympathy that you have to watch a couple of adverts. Get over it. Regarding point four, no it hasn't. The divides and issues were always there under the surface but the protests made them harder for people to ignore, which was basically the purpose of the protest. It's like moving your bookcase and seeing a bunch of damp behind it, moving the bookcase didn't give you damp. Clearly we had issues with racial inequality before BLM, hence the rise in hate crimes. Regarding point five, Israel is a colonialist state that forces Palestinians out of their homes, murders journalists and children, and is using their power and sway in rich countries like America to sweep it under the rug. Everyone should oppose it and if you are thinking "well it's too complicated to pick a side, I've always been told both sides are equally to blame and I shouldn't comment" you are doing exactly what Israel wants.

Regarding the first point, what Marxist principles? The principle that people should be treated equally? That's not a Marxist principle, it is universal. Again just using Marxism as a buzz word with little idea what it means or how it connects. Regarding the second point, gunna need some evidence for that. Sounds like a higher up person bought some houses, no evidence it was from donation money. The third point is ridiculous. Firstly he wasn't protesting the flag he was protesting racism, and second who gives a shit its a flag? Embarrassing seeing arguments made defending a flag in america, even more embarrassing hearing them made on behalf of the american flag in the UK. On the fourth point, clearly it wasn't working or we wouldn't need this one.

It's funny how people who complain about politics being brought over from America are happy to import red scare propaganda. I'd surprised if half the people who complain about it could even define Marxism, less say how it relates to BLM or a push for racial equality in a sport that has stories of racial abuse to players seemingly every week. Also some black players don't do it because they don't think it goes far enough and is just for show, not because they disagree with it and the cause. The "I'm against it, but so is Zaha" is such a silly argument that completely misses the point Zaha and Toney are making, and booing would make these players ashamed.

Yeah although I guess it's arguable whether his value has risen since then. Great championship season but he was bought for the premier league in which he flopped somewhat. For the record, I think it probably has and he's probably worth around £20m now which is out of our range.

Swansea, because they are shit and will result in an easier season for us. Maybe Barnsley. Not Bournemouth or Brentford as we are linked to Danjuma and Henry.

Danjuma looks quality, probably out of our price range.