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I was privy to the whole SEEDA/City Council plan from the old Meridian site down to Crosshouse Quay and they are/were up for anything goes. Although I just don't think the net cost of the land SMS is on is worth much in the current market (whether they deem it industrial, commercial or residential. I also agree in that I just don't think Norwich Union are in that line of business (it's just too much hassle, surely). IMHO they will just want a settlement (as they did at Ipswich) or they will be willing to renegoiate a new position with any new owners. They were up for taking a hit at Ipswich, and they have shown their willingness to accept a deferral on the "mortgage" payments, so I think they have certainly shown they realise they need to give to a certain degree.

But isn't there an isuue that unless we keep our side of the bargain i.e. paying them on time and being a football team in a league, then doesn;t that invalidate their contracts and they can just walk away???? I'm sure there were some clubs where the players just walked away (I think it was Luton so off to have a root around).

The two most interesting things that came out of The Echo's stuff tonight were: a) The salary comparisons of Burley, Pearson and Poortvliet. I'm all up for saving money but spending £60,000 on your manager (actually head Coahc) is somewhat asking for trouble. And if you're on that much then I'm not sure I believe that he paid the Helmond compo!!!!!!! That had to be one hell of a false economy. b) The other interesting fact was that Crouch had managed to get Norwich Union to agree to some sort of holiday/derferral of the stadium "loan" costs bring it down from £2.4m per year to £1m per year.

I have to agree in that I think the break up value of the Club would be pretty low. We own the land at Jackson's Farm, a small part of Staplewood (with constraints on it) and of course the land at SMS. None of that is a big number and in particular for SMS you would need to demolish it first!!!! I don't think the assets in the stadium would be worth that much. There's just not that much of a market for second hand stuff from a football stadium and the cost of removal would eat up much of the revenue. And as for our most "valuable assets" (i.e. the players LOL), then like you I believe in liquidation they will just walk away from their contracts. I believe the best bet for the major creditors would be either an upfront settlement with any new consortium or an agreement to trade away the balance with the company being sold as a going concern. What was interesting from The Echo piece was that Crouch had already negotiated some sort of a "holiday"/deferment on the stadium loan (down from £2.4m per annum to £1m per annum), so Norwich Union are up for negotiating!!!

WTF is he over there, miles away from where he lives. Did you have a word with him??? (and was Kim Van Der Waals in the toilet LOL).

LOL, I missed this post just like I missed Quondam being another of his aliases. Will we get in to double figures??????

Throw in a manager whose experience was primarily in the Dutch Lower Leagues and is it any wonder that this season ended in such a sht storm. Kim van der Waals LMFAO, will we ever know the true horrors of this season?????

IMHO the Administrator will earn more money and receive greater kudos in the long run if he manages to pull a deal together.

Didn't he do a Kachloul????? I personally have no problem with Schneiderlin being a talent that we could nurture and hope he gets better each year and adapts to the Englosh game. It's just the fact that we blew probably our entire transfer budget on a hunch/young prospect, when we were crying out for experience and steel. When you haven't got much money it's imperative that you spend what you have very wisely, and the acquisition of Schneiderlin suggested we got our priorities all wrong. The very fact that the Head Coach hadn't even seen him play is just the icing on the cake. For me, it's nothing about the player's talent, its the context of how/why we signed him.

Made worse by the fact the Head Coach hadn't even seen him play!!!!!!!!!! Then again we had no money and no options:rolleyes::smt075

It wasn't amicable, Woggy wanted to stay on and was prepared to take a big reduction in pay to carry on doing the job. Lowe's line was that it was one of many cutbacks, but the feeling from Woggy amongst others was that it was a vindictive act. That part of the decision will never be proved one way or the other, but what is clear is that Woggy didn't want to leave. Woggy was more than the kitman, he was also the gofer who would do many things for the players and was well liked and respected by the pros, young and old alike. He was a familiar face at SMS and Staplewood who would take the pressure off the players by undertaking any number of menial tasks and generally helping around the place. IMHO his spirit and personality was a plus side when considering the morale of the dressing room.

Compared to Poortvliet and Lowe and their respective performances this season, then I think he couldn't do any worse:D

I don't normally go in for who is the better fan than who and whether you need to be a season ticket holder to have an opinion, but I do find your protestations about fairweather support from the confines of your armchair somewhat galling.

Are you really admitting to thinking Wigley was a good appointment??? This is the same Wigley who ruled himself out six months earlier!!!!!

Indeed it is a tough decision and a decision that will have a massive impact on the Club, which is why I would advocate ruling out promoting "nice" coaches from within, or from scouring the Dutch lower leaues for Revolutionary Coaches!!!!!!!!!!!! I think alot of the time it's a lottery, but we didn't even give ourselves an outside chance with some of our recent appointments.

Because like Ron I think promoting someone who is expereinced from within is not the best way to go and you were trying to counter that by suggesting Ted Bates was a success. Of course he was, but I was pointing out that that was over 50 years ago and so hardly relevant

IMHO I think the single biggest factor in generating these numbers is the empathy between the Board/Owners and the fans. I get the impression their Board value their fans and their fans hold their Board in high regard. It may even have something to do with being run in the past by someone as despised Lowe in Chase, in that they can see that this Board have shown by their words and deeds to really care for the Club.

He was also the Fourth Bear before he got banned. With dynamic IP addressing and the ease of getting new email address its not exactly difficult to re-register.

Using the appointment of a manager 50 years ago is probably not the best way about getting your point across.

And an addendum to your retort would be (we still lost cash out the door in Lowe's season of 05/06 even after bringing in £16m from player sales. This was also the season where Lowe "didn't know where the next penny was coming from!"). Ship shape and solvent???? About as watertight as Sundance's claims he's not NineteenCanteen LOL.

Exactly. I don't think people are actually crucifying Schneiderlin, merely pointing out that in our precarious position it probably wasn't wise to splash the cash on a young prospect, when (a) we were skint and (b) we needed someone who could come into the team and make an immediate impact.

Would like to see Jurgen Streppel on the poll.

The interviews on Radio Hampshire came across somewhat differently. Kelvin was clear that he was more than happy to stay on and if a new contract was offered to him then he would have no problems finishing his career down here and playing in League One. Surman was much more circumspect and non committal. When asked about playing in league One he was very much of the "I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, you never know what's around the corner" type of reply. I definitely sensed a mrkes difference between their responses.

In which case you need to steer clear of making stupid assertions because Dodd and Gorman were not Burley's repacements, just as Wise and Bassett weren't Redknapps and Wigley wasn't Strachans!!!! Burley's replacement was Pearson and his short stint was on a par with Burley's final run of games. And of course many think he could have pushed on from that, but we all know what happened next...........

So how come you missed out all the quotes from the same round of interviews on 7th February: "we will not be rushed into an appointment", "It allows the Club more time over the hunt for a replacement", "We always said we would take our time to make sure we appoint the right person" It allows the Club to take their time over the hunt for a replacement for George Burley. ?????????????