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This is one of my biggest problems, the sycophancy that we have at the moment. There just doesn't appear to be anyone willing to pull Lowe to one side and suggest that maybe he isn't always right!!!! I'm not talking about outright opposition and arguments in a boardroom, but a balance, where other people's thoughts are sought, and more importantly digested, because everything I see is it being run very autocratically. With all due respect to Dave Jones, I don't think he does anything apart from what he's told, Wilde probably likes to think he gets consulted, but in reality we all know Lowe is calling the shots and although I'm sure Cowen sometimes tries, I just don't think he has that much influence over Lowe. For example when he decided he was going to open the AGM with that letter, Cowen should have pulled him to one side and said, "I really don't think is a good idea Rupert" and perhaps more importantly Lowe should have listened to him. As much as there are others in the boardroom, I still get the feeling that it is Lowe who is running the show.

I can only remember him as being tall. Mate of mine really rated him, but I never really saw that he had that something extra to be able to make the step up.

Really??? I remember him during those halcyon days and thought everyone rated him (steaming in at the far post). Something like 1 goal in 3 from a traditional midfielder, pah, call yourself a historian LOL.

Touching. Problem is you have neve been respected, Seen Jan's CV lately???

Although I fully accept that our financial position is complicated and somewhat worrying, I have to say that I do subscribe to the idea that it is fairly simplistic. That's not to say the solution is simple, easily available and it will be a doddle, but the overiding facts are that we only have two major creditors (Barclay's and Norwich Union). It is not in either of their interests to pull the plug on us and with some good management (and signs of progress on and off the pitch), it should be relatively easy to win them round. Our cost base is fairly simply structured with the biggest single cost being players wages (so look to get them down, but strike a balance with quality). Other income is fairly fixed or at least forecastable (TV rights & other) and the biggest variable revenue is gate receipts. Engender a spirit of togetherness and get some decent results on the pitch and the variable money rolls in, and we start a virtuous circle as opposed to a vicious one!!!!! And I have to say that is an assumption that is being proved to be right, and one that is holding us back, if not dobbing us in it even further Get someone in who doesn't perpetuate and extend our financial crisis by adopting crass strategies and we may have a chance of achieving what I have set out above. A failing footballing strategy, with ridiculous appointments and philosophies, will only take us one way.

Which is effectively what happened at Ipswich. The refinancing that took place there saw existing shareholders get diluted from 100% to 12.5%, with any new money going in to the club as opposed to shareholders pockets. Even at 3m, our value is probably way over the top, so can't agree with Weston's assumption that anyone would need to pay a premium on that!!! That might be what the current owners would want, but in the current climate and looking at recent transactions of CCC clubs thery're not going to get it!!! I also know Evans looked at us at some point and wonder why his approach wasn't taken any further???

They must have liked you (or hated me) as i had to give mine a scrub in some big sink there as well!!!!!!!! They did spray my bags for me though!!!!!!

That's the old one which was indeed somewhat ropey before they built the new one. The players used to wait at level crossings to get to the next tee, whilst Jumbo's taxi'd past!!!! The new one is top notch and ****es on Heathrow.

The driving force behind the move from The Dell was not the move to being a PLC, but instead it was the influx of massive wonga from TV (primarily SKY). (The SKY deal alone was worth 40m per season to the Premier League when Lowe came in, 170m 12 mths later rising to 340m a year the season we went down). As you have demonstrated with your own reasons for owning shares, every shareholder has different motives for "investing", but there is also an argument that for his relatively small investment, Lowe has netted a rather handsome return with the millions he has been paid over the years.

I know Wolves were in Div 3 when Steve Bull played for England, but that was obviously a few years back!!! And the other problem is England U-21's normally play at the same time and quite a few of their players have come from the lower leagues (e.g. Fabian Delph at Leeds, Joe Lewis for Peterborugh)

I'd be amazed if that 8.35% rate hadn't been renegotiated or parked/deferred. As for St Marco and C B Fry's comments, then my view is probably somewhere in the middle. I think that if we go down (and BTW my money is that we won't!!) I don't think it will be total meltdown and the 4th division, but I think it will be very messy. My only issue after we go down is whether administration is inevitable or not??? Because if we do go into administration and receive a serious points deduction and also take part in a firesale of players and assets, then it somewhat changes the scenario.

He put something like 130k in in return for new shares when there was a "rights issue" in circa 1999 as a part of the 3million to raise funds for SMS. But as for this story, then i don't think it has any legs (not least because it would be trumpeted from the roof tops had it been the case).

Although there is also the argument that these new players will need to gel with their new team mates and may create an unsettled feeling, I do think our experience last season shows you what some good loans can achieve. Wright, Perry & Lucketti etc certainly played their part in helping us stay up (in much the same way that Saiejs has improved us since he arrived), so would have liked to have seen some movement. Forest look to have used the window well, but not sure what our other main rivals, Plymouth and Norwich, achieved????

What were we thinking of???? Clifford was an early version of Poortvliet!!!! We might meet up with him again if things go really pear shaped:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Interesting, as at a fans forum at SMS he came across really well and quite inspirational (then again he was up alongside either Redknapp or Burley, so inspiring that I can't remember which one). Of course, that's not to say that the apointment was the right one at the right time alongside the right people with regards us;)

Simple is probably the right word to use;) HTH

You never fail to deliver LOL. As usual you waddle on here and get it wrong again LMFAO. What next, posts about Lowe raising 25million or was it 8 million from the mortgage and the remortgage??? Poortvliet should be kept on and our poor performance was not down to him??? BTW, loved you earlier post slagging off Wilde who is now Lowe's right hand man and the suggestion that Lowe runs the Club as a business. Just not sure what business would be happy with a CEO overseeing something like a 70% drop in income, a substantial fall in share price, falling footfall through the door, a PR disaster and failed appoitnments & strategies that have pushed this Club to the brink. Sounds like he could get a job at AIG, Giltnir and Landsbanki.

Well, it's quite simple. Don't come out with such ballox and it won't challenged. Of course it wouldn't stop him saying it, but it wouldn't make it right, nor would it provide more fuel to his argument or make it more "correct". At least you've changed your tune now.

But it is illogical to say it gives fuel to his argument when that is clearly not the case as you yourself have pointed out (and you're from a more pro Lowe perspective than many).

Benjii's spot on in that Thai customs won't give a monkey's as effectively you won't be treading on their soil. If you're really that worried then pack any stuff in your suitcases as I'm assuming your luggage will be checked through to Oz. He's also right about Oz customs and they were all over me like a rash when I went round the world and made me scrub my hiking boots for ages before they let me in!!!!!

Two points. Firstly, people will of course moan after a loss and they will obviously moan even more, and probably protest, after a series of them. That's obvious and if things were going swimmingly, then we would not want, nor need a change. But things weren't going swimmingly and we were in need of a change. Just as people deserve and receive the plaudits (and money) when things go well, then you should expect some stick and maybe a sacking/change when they're not. Secondly, if you concede that they didn't stop just because of a win, then you must also concede that it is illogical to suggest it give fuel to the line of argument you sugest.

They didn't just stop because of a home win. I'm sure many shared my sentiments that we had made our point, had also probably aided change with our reactions at the Doncaster game, and as Crouch himself mentioned publicly, we were now willing to give our support to the manager and team in the run in. I pray daily that we will stay up, but a "great escape" will not wipe away the fact that the decision making and leadership at the Club this season has been found badly wanting. Obviously logisitcs will play a part as we will be away on the last game of the season, but I think there will still be sort of a protest against the current incumbents once the season has ended. Given that there will be no games to focus people, then I think the most obvious form will be the non renewal of season tickets mentioned on here before.

Would be interested to know what the payment was for, but I can't believe it is as much as 400,000. He's notched up 42 appearances for us (57 if you include subs) so maybe it's based on a 40 or 50 milestone. If it is an appearance based payment, then it makes the decision to go with McGoldrick, (and then persevere with him), a very interesting one as it puts a different perspective on his bucks per goal (particularly when compared against others we shipped out) !!!!