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Good spot. I knew we had Forest away, but those other games could mean that 8 interested clubs could be all over each other on that Sunday. I wouldn't mind betting that at different stages during the 90 minutes almost every team will be in the relegation spots. I think watching Sky Sports Centre that afternoon will be rather nerve wracking!!!!!!!

Did you miss the winks;) And maybe your semantics jibe would have found a better home when NickG first got on his high horse regarding not doing paraphrasing. Your swift intervention then could have stopped all this nonsense. Anyway, thanks for your input, and feel free to roam the board offering your advice.

Then maybe he should have used the term "I wasn't" or "I didn't" as opposed to "I don't" which is somewhat permanent and definite;) Nor do I, but NickG doesn't sound too happy;)

Nick, forgive me, but I don't want a battle, just find it slightly hypocritical that you're happy to wade in and wave your dck about a bit, but then get all prissy when someone has a shot across your bows. You clearly said you don't paraphrase, but then admit you had:rolleyes::smt048:rolleyes::smt048 In the grand scheme of things, it's fck all, but the fact that your claim you don't paraphrase was followed by an exclamation mark, a hth and the fact it was a sharp retort just makes your hypocrisy all the more funny. But of course, why does everything have to be a battle;)

So which is it Nick? Do you paraphrase or not? (I actually don't give a fck, but thought I would just highlight your hypocrisy and give you a clue as to why things may turn into a battle with you!) Things might appear to be a battle to you, but when you go in feet first and have a pop at others over nothing, then you probably need to expect some stick back. Maybe if you weren't so patronising then it might go slightly more smoothly.

I'm really surprised you're still struggling with this one Frank. I struggle to believe that you don't realise this was/is a fluid situation and how things ebbed and flowed over time. Pearson had to prepare for the relegation battle knowing full well that "if" (more like "when" actually) Lowe and Wilde got back in, then his job would be under threat. As I have mentioned above, it was well known that Wilde and Lowe weren't overly enamoured with him and that they had indicated they might replace him. During this period he kept his nose clean and got on with the job in hand despite this obvious distraction hanging over his head. Come the end of the season, which was a 'relative' success, many, including Pearson, hoped he had done enough to win round the doubters, Lowe and Wilde key amongst them. He therefore went into the meeting with Lowe upbeat, hoping that despite knowing there had been moves afoot to replace him, he had done enough to allow him to honour the rest of his contract. I understand the meeting itself was described as positive, and once again despite knowing of the threat to replace him he left upbeat believing he had allayed that threat with relative success on the pitch and a positive meeting with Lowe. I am led to believe that he left to go to Malta thinking he had every chance of coming back to the job. He was therefore surprised to learn he was out of a job when his agent rang him to tell him the story had broken on the net that Saints had appointed Poortvliet.

And changing your post around, I'm not sure why it is so difficlut to undserstand

You've just paraphrased what he said there, and there are a couple of lines where your recollection is different to mine. I'm sure he said he is no longer involved in the Academy and is now overseeing the reserves and the first team only. He also never used the word excellent with regards the fans support. HTH

The last time I checked, Duncan hadn't published a book on here;) He's got an opinion, be it good, bad, bllocks or indifferent. He's a fan and he's entitled to espouse it on here (as is everyone). When I read one of the Hagiology books (the ones you thought were boring in your last guise) I expect some balance, some facts and quality, but the last time I checked Granty wasn't undertaking a quality control test on the posts on here. If you haven't got the ability to discern for yourself what goes up on here, then you really shouldn't be on here in the first place.

Fair enough, with the exception of the bit in bold. Lowe had never even met Pearson to discuss what his views were with regards playing youngsters what he would want etc before he had decided to go with Poortvliet. He also ignored Pearson's many comments about the importance of youth teams and how they should blend in with the first team. And it also looks bad in hindsight as Pearson had made judiscious use of loan signings and playing a large number of youngsters at leicester. The decision was already made to replace Pearson and it was solely a footballing decision. No problem about that, that's Lowe's perogative. But he should have stopped bllshtting and had the balls to say it was. The very fact that it was a fcking disaster is another debate altogether!!!

Indeed, but with a caveat. Crouch simply does not have the ability to decide Wotte's future in the same way that Lowe could with Pearson. PS I presume Crouch doesn't rate Wotte, as his tirade was launched when Poortvliet was in situ (but saying I want a British manager somewhat rules Wotte out).

And if Crouch had come back and sacked Wotte and/or Poortvliet and said it was because of financial issues, then I would have called him a fcking bllshtter who should have the balls to put his name to his new appointment and not claim it was forced upon him and he had no choice due to financial issues.

He said (and I paraphrase): last April Rupert asked me to join ....... April/May I think it was. If you want to believe the bllsht about how and when Poortvliet and Wotte were appointed, when they were approached (cue Barcelona's post putting them with Van Der Waals in Southampton way before the end of the season) and why Pearson was dispensed with then you carry on in your dream world. Just makes you look like a mug for listening to (and taking in) the propaganda put out by those currently running the Club.

It was an open secret around St Mary's and everyone including Pearson had heard that both Lowe and Wilde were not overly enamoured by him. I think Wilde mentioned it to the SOS boys in the Spring and even as far back as that Central Hall meeting there was talk about Lowe & Wilde bringing their own men in. Whilst Pearson was fighting the relegation battle he was aware that he could well be replaced, but maintained a dignified silence (at least in public).

Absolutely, and both of them were pretty poor to go public/or at least not be candid with their thoughts on the manager when both managers had a relegation battle to oversee. The only difference being that with Pearson, as it was fairly obvious Lowe would get back in in a couple of months then Lowe's lack of support for Pearson was much more damning as he would soon be in a position to back up those words with actions (which of course he did), whereas Crouch could be dismissed as hot air and having no chance of executing his plan. PS plus the very fact that Poortvliet was fcking sht and should have been ran out of town meant that at least Crouch was probably making the right call LOL.

But Poortvliet and Wotte were already lined up way before he even met with Pearson. In fact he was quite open about his thoughts of Pearson quite a bit before the season even ended!!!!! Dead man walking and Pearson never stood a chance. And besides, even if Lowe did act and think as you suggested (which he did not), then why the bllsht about money issues etc etc etc. The whole appointment of Poortvliet was a done deal before he even had his feet under the table and once again the fans were bllshtted to.

At least Crouch was honest and upfront about it;) I very much doubt if he had got back in and then sacked Poortvliet he would have said it was for any other reason apart from I think he's sht and hopefully the new bloke will be better.

And Pearson met with Lowe about a week before somewhere around the 23rd May. Pearson was a dead man walking from the minute Wilde and Lowe teamed up earlier that Spring.

Poortvliet & Wotte were announced on 30th May. Interesting.

I presume these Action Points 1) Lowe to decide if he can serve on a Board with Wilde 2) Wilde to decide if he can serve on a Board with Lowe will be replaced with these ones: 1) Jackson to decide if he can work with McCloughlin post administration. 2) McCloughlin to decide if he can work with Jackson post administration 3) Barry Beardall to issue accounts 4) Beckham to be contacted ASAP 5) New photocopier needed in ticket office ASAP

Just as long as we're spared their postings (and even worse PM's!!!). I've still got some beauties that I read now and then to give me a chuckle.

He had one redeeming feature, i.e. his ability to be indiscrete and let almost anyone get their hands on some juicy details. And everything I have ever heard about that bloke makes me think we were very wise to give him a wide berth. But I still maintain that at the time of the Runnymede minutes in Autumn 2007, Lowe was angling for a return.

LOL, so now you're only allowed an opinion if you can match the wealth of those currently running it:rolleyes::rolleyes:. Considering all the fck ups that these"rich" people have made in recent years, I reckon there is actualy a negative correlation between personal wealth and ability to run a football club well. (and that's before we get on to the ridiculous notion that clever automatically = rich, and how wealth is the only measurement we should use).

January 2008???? If so, then I think those sniffing around at that time were the bllshtters being led around by Mark Jackson, so I'm not sure how much I would believe about the stories doing the rounds at that time. The Runnymede minutes in late 2007 showed that Lowe would be willing to serve on the board again (they even had him down as Director Of Football!!!!). I reckon he initially would have walked away had someone bought all his cabal's shares, but once no one came forward, then I always had an inkling he would want to come back as he thought there was some unfinished business and that he was shabbily treated (in his own opinion of course).

I'm outraged that you didn't trust me Ron!!!!!