Saint Without a Halo

8 points off and a game in hand! Bring on Bristol Rovers!

1-0 yessssssssssssssssssssssssss

no finger nails left now Pompey down!

Merry's just said "we need a clean sheet now" time for finger nail biting again!

Ref thinks they are playing basketball! about 5 handballs not given!

We need to go for this as safety first is now relatively pointless! If the season was 90 mins only then this is the stage at which our keeper needs to come up to the opposing area for corners!

Neither you or I are wrong! We have differing opinions formulated from what we have seen and experienced! By the way I work in construction and have visited Iraq a number of times over the last few years from here in Dubai. I also have access to all news channels both western and non western. If you want an independant opinion on how the US is benefiting I think you should watch the BBC documentary on how US business is conducted in Iraq by the BBC reporter Tanya Beckett! Also the US is by far the largest benefactor of contracts in Iraq and is also the largest importer of Iraqi oil these are both undisputed facts! Re your point on OPEC, Iraq is being used to weaken the OPEC Cartel as it has to increase supplies in an effort to rebuild and feed it's people and is therefore less likely to cut back on supplies to suit OPEC's price policy. Furthermore the country is also now a cess pit of corruption with vast profits being made by both Iraqi officials and the US companies at the expense of a largely poor population struggling to survive violence, a lack of infrastructure and no jobs. There is even not enough petrol for cars in a country sitting on a lake of oil! Never mind a severe shortage of electricity, power, hospitals schools and education! also what ever there is, is only affordable by the few! It is this helplessness and lack of a future that breeds terrorisim and the US needs to understand this if it is to successfully combat it!

You are right though you forgot about the other really small tin pot club from down the road (On reflection you probably left them out as they will not be there for much longer thankfully)

You are right the helicopter wasn't even in sight! Also everyone in Iraq knows that you are accompanied by armed guards when you are outside the green zone! So the AK47's should be no surprise. If they thought the camera was an RPG and that there were people close by in danger then they could convievably make a case to take him out! however what they did in terms of taking out the other 17 and the van and then covering up the story, continuing to argue they were all insurgents and hiding the video is inexcusable. It is no wonder we are not taken seriously when we explain our democratic ideals! It should be do what I do not do what I say! We must set the example if we want others to believe in our ideals!

Actually the Middle East % of deserts is approx the same as its % of Oil (if you include North Africa and given the main world oil producers are Russia and the US). Secondly my answer was very much in jest!

Unfortunately you argument has a hole in it as future clean energy will be mainly solar! and where does the sunshine shine hardest and longest?...........why deserts of course!

Am I cynical as I believe it is not a financial burden but a calculated business case in which the advance payment (the cost of the military adventure which also happens to be a stimulus for the US economy at the same time) is offset against the future guaranteed cheap controllable oil supplies as well as vast profits for US firms replacing the bomb damaged infrastructure using the countries oil wealth to pay for it!

Thanks for clarifying your point! However the Falklands was hardly a war to end terrorism and the population generally all welcomed us rather than took up arms against us! furthermore the total dead in what was no more than a skirmish when compared to Iraq was less than those killed in Baghdad over the last few weeks! Also the majority of those killed were military rather than civillian and little if any action took place in hevily populated urban environments. So hardly much of a direct comparison! Also I dont recollect any British troops taking out 18 civillians and then trying to cover it up!

So in what recent war have we bombed are way to success? The claim is this war was to Eliminate weapons of mass destruction NONE FOUND SO FAR Remove the threat of Saddam HE WAS STRUGGLING TO CONTROL HIS OWN COUNTRY AND BLED DRY BY SANCTIONS To make the world a safer place IS IT SAFER NOW? To get to the planners of the twin towers NO EVIDENCE IRAQ WAS INVOLVED To weaken Al Qaeda NOW PRESENT IN IRAQ WHEN PREVIOUSLY ABSENT To stop the killing in Iraq MORE DEAD SINCE LIBERATION THAN BEFORE All that has happened is their is more poverty more death more divide and more misery and certainly more resentment and more anger at America and the West all the things we are trying to stop So have we bombed are way to success in Iraq even in Afghanistan? I for one think not! What was so politically correct about this war and please tell me what the objectives were as I am cynically inclined to believe they were about oil and profits for the few at the expense of everyone else hardly complicated me thinks!!

Where does the reporter point the camera at the Helicopter? The helicopters where a long way a way and no body on the ground was even aware of their presence and there was certainly no threat perceived or otherwise to the helicopters!

So they made a MISTAKE then why compound it by killing 15 others and people trying to rescue the wounded in a van! why try to hide the truth, why pretend they are all insurgents why hide the evidence etc. surely best to own up! The point I am making is by behaving in a n unlawful and evasive way, by showing glee at unmitigated and unjustified violence all the relatives and friends of the dead will now hold resentment against the west when once they may have had an affinity with it (especially the reuters employees) and as such all that happens is we create more enemies more terrorists more wars and more killings. This is now a great propoganda coup for terrorist recruitment showing that we believe in law and order and cpompensation only for a select few! You can never bomb your way to success! So what is it they are trying to do in Iraq anyway!

Easy to say here but I would like you to explain that to the family of the victim who was a reporter working legally for a western news agency! also why did the US go on insisting they had killed insurgents and why was the video kept under wraps?

It is killings such these that creates and feeds terrorism! the only answer to terrorism is education jobs and reasons to want to live! War and bombs create 100 more people willing to undertake terrorist acts for every 10 they kill especially when those caught up in the violence like here are largely innocent!

True if you really believe a man with a camera and people in a van are a threat to an Apache helicopter gunship.

4-1

Safe to come out now Alpine it must be now surely! 4-0

3-2

3 mins stoppage

Hartlepool free kick in a dangerous position! JUST WIDE