Lee On Solent Saint

I think for me, the issue is Martin's in game management. I get the impression, especially in our earlier games, that subs were made for all the wrong reasons. I get that we have a large squad, and every player thinks he should be playing, but it seemed in some games that Martin was determined to get certain players on just to get them on the pitch. That would work if you had like for like players, but the drop off in quality we have on the bench from the pitch is pretty stark. It certainly had a detrimental effect in the latter stages of some games. Also, the amount of changes in one go doesn't help the team either, just creates a bit of confusion for five minutes or so as they all adapt to different shapes etc. Am hoping that as the season goes on, if he is still here, that just because he can make subs, doersn't mean he needs to.

Not for me. Woefully short at this level. The ironic thing is, he scored yesterday with probably the most difficult chance he has had all season.

Think when you are a keeper in that position you need to make a split second decison. You could say that had he stayed on his line, Harrison would have scored. The fact that he came bulldozing off his line, may have just put him off.

Yep, I'll enjoy the win. Good to finally get one, however it came about. The real acid test will come at Wolves next week, huge game for both teams. I hate the term relegation six pointer, but I guess that is what it is.

The point is, if Fraser doesn't come on, the offence for the penalty doesn't happen. Taylor was the most obvious sub in that game. Am not suggesting he is a walking red card, so no idea where you get that from. Am not sure what point you are trying to make, a sub can have a bad moment, a sub can score an own goal so its pretty likely that a sub can influence a game just as much as a starter can. The only reason we wilited against Leicester was because of Martin's in game management, a fact that was largely universally agreed with on the match thread, apart from the Martin fanboys that is.

No. It was the subs and the in game management that cost us that. If Fraser doesn't come on, he's not in a position to committ the tug back on Vardy. Presumbly you can grasp that? I'd be willing to bet that Taylor, if he had come on like he should, would not have been in that situation. You can piss and moan about the ref as much as you like, but its only hiding behind the inept decision making in that game.

Not really sure fine margins were in play against Leicester. That defeat was down to Martin and his bizarre subs.

It was a game we could easily have lost on another day. Ramsdale was the difference in the end. The save from Keane was top drawer, even then we had a huge slice of luck with the ball deflecting off Ramsdale and onto the post via Keane again. Another day, that goes in because of the deflection. Credit to Armstrong, was a tidy finish from a difficult chance, he misses easier ones. All in all a welcome three points, but such as the fine margins are, we could easily be sat here talking about another defeat.

It was a game we could easily have lost on another day. Ramsdale was the difference in the end. The save from Keane was top drawer, even then we had a huge slice of luck with the ball deflecting off Ramsdale and onto the post via Keane again. Another day, that goes in because of the deflection. Credit to Armstrong, was a tidy finish from a difficult chance, he misses easier ones. All in all a welcome three points, but such as the fine margins are, we could easily be sat here talking about another defeat.

He wanted to put his best team out against City, so he could lap up all of Pep's praise.

Is there an echo in here?

Isn't that standard for us?

Why trousers, just why?!

We hardly looked comfortable in any of those games. Needed last minute goals to get past Cardiff and Stoke.

Am not sure that Lampard is any worse than Martin to be honest. Personally I would take the risk just to be shot of Martin.

In this case it will. The only fans inside St Mary's will be the Martin fan boys like you.

I've said this on many other threads, if we go down and Martin is still in charge next season, St Mary's is going to be half empty from the get go.

You mistake anger for frustration.

I just want Martin gone out of the club. Don't care who they bring in, Micky Mouse for all I care. Had enough of all the bullshit about it coming together at some point and that we are going to have fun. It's the beginning of November and I've not had any fun watching this shower of shit at all.

Guess he means the guy who used to sell hoovers, or what ever he did.

Really? If he was willing to come here, would be a huge upgrade on Martin.

We would probably turn down their approach for him.

Sounds like you lifted that post from our last relegation season.

Sounds strangely familar

Am sure this is going to be pinned up in his office at Staplewood. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c5yrrrx5pr0o