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Yes I think you are probably right and Mateus non attacking ability may have only been made more conspicuous by necessity last year! He is clearly - to me- our best #10. But he’s had to defend more than a #10 usually has to!

Agree that will bolster price resolve. A certain propensity to sell him exists at high level though. It has to in real life. It is also simultaneously contingent on how offers for our targets proceed. I’ve only heard of firm interest in attacking midfielders/wingers /10 - none of which really seem to match Mateus characteristics - so, if he is sold, then that’s a possible gap. This may undermine that propensity to sell as his engine, willingness to run and defend and tackle PLUS his strong attackIng characteristics are a special combo. That’s why he is an high value young player basically! Unsure any of the interesting names we’ve heard possess his package.

Nope. Steve Williams was already one of the best midfielders in the first division and everyone knew it when he joined Arsenal. There was no potential about him because he was already very very good and had already proved it match after match in proper football like what they used to play back then. Tyler is potentially an excellent player but nowhere near delivered at top level English football what Williams had. Our captain as well !

Chelsea are smashing West Ham after going a goal down. Think they won’t finish with 11men either. WH look for all the world like relegation favourites already. Hopeless defending. Mattie watching this cannot want to join this shower..

Cough cough 1-2…😁

The squad, including Mads if he is there not getting the logistics of relocating out the way, will be doing the usual pre match session, of course: This is usually : A light game of ping pong, some darts, sandwiches and salad hot day like this then followed by an instructive talk on ancient Mesopotamian cuniform tablets I think it is this week in the afternoon to exercise those brain muscles as well. I’d imagine if Mads has the stamina he may then go back to his digs at the Harbar on foot, picking up some chips along the way (on the QT of course). Well, that was the Friday pre match prep last season but I don’t know if Will has mixed it up a bit? Maybe they willdo the informative and mentally stimulating lecture in the morning and darts /pool in the afternoon? Your guess as good as mine. What do I think Mads will be doing after that? Tough day so early night I expect.

I think Hamer is more likely to have a positive impact on saints than Cam this season. Or BBd. Or Sam despite his purple patch couple years ago. Hard pushed to have less! Too many of our players are impact-lite and zero personality.

Agree with people saying don’t judge get too happy or too angry too soon. IF Will is going to stay true to “ it’s all about winning” - the reverse side is forget about style - Machiavellian ends justifies the means is the new catchphrase nothing about bravery..🤣 In which case some posters on Here better forget phrases like “he doesn’t know his best team” or “he flip flops like a tinker man too much “ or “the players dont know what to do” if we should god forbid drop points and he starts to change the way we play accordingly. I can see some then demanding consistency and continuity as the best pathway instead of chopping and changing each week. He cannot please all of the fans all of the time is the moral of that story I guess! 😁

I know I’m sorry Sam but if it’s between you and /or Cam plus £10m for a Russian champion playmaker or the championship player of the year playmaker I’m doing the deal now.

Well you may be right. Change the values and then tell me what you think one of the best championship players in the league is worth in this market. £20m?£25m? Then bear in mind Cameron has not had a fulsome goal return since we bought him and I don’t think his value has risen- it’s dropped. is he a £10m player now probably at least imo. Him plus £10m for Hamer is a win win deal imo for both sides.

Here’s some other fun player plus cash options : BBD + £10m for Azaz or Hamer. Edozie plus £10m for Spertsyan. Charlie Taylor plus BBD + £8m for Rudoni. Cam Archer plus £10m for Hamer. BBD plus cash - renews sky sports subscription in the concourse at SMS. 😁

All possible yup and make sense. will they happen? Ahha! Add in a Charlie Taylor or a Cam Archer to the equation or a Sam Edozie or a loan of Senda or a cut price Bree whilst you’re at it. It’s a massive set of potential permutations really if you’re looking to get one of Azaz, Fellowes or Rudoni in return. Maybe even a senior CB is available as well..

I expect Stoke to set up pretty close to how Wrexham did. Will may revert to a four at the back to address the defensive porosity we’ve all seen - but it’s unlikely Mads plays from the start. He won’t have had even one full training session. If it’s not Mads in a four that probably means Yuki ( unless Ronnie Edwards /Nathan Wood get a go) If those are the choices IMO it’s more likely Will starts with three CB’s again. If we are having the same issues as before then he would change it up. Should he just say bollocks and start the match with a back four anyway is the question though. One scenario is to give player X the first 60 at RB but then let Mads have the last 20-30 and at least play the 90 minutes that way. It would show a strong degree of flexible proactivity and pragmatism at same time. But I’d say the CB union are going to be a bit worried tonight because if it works we may have 1 or 2 more than we need… PS. just seen his video in the gym from Thursday. Bloke looks fit and relaxed. He may get to run around today with squad so Maybe he does start after all !

I think that it’s not impossible the Krasnodar President may expect a brown envelope from Saints as part of the deal - and we apparently don’t do brown envelopes in the Club Shop. That might explain why agreement is at an impasse even though transfer fee and wages seem agreed or agreeable. This nonsense about not wanting a player to player championship level is 100% bollocks. Show him enough money and he’d sell him to the National League.

Oh- and they took a young GarethBale from us and he didn’t turn out bad!

So maybe the deal is £12m for Azaz plus we give them BBD plus £2m as a Thank you?🤣

I’m not certain he can or will in that Palace team - only that he’s got some similar characteristics - ball dribbling skills and playing off the wing. Oh, and probably most importantly that Palace may try £35m cash plus sell-on plus Rak-Sakiy thrown in -and that might tempt Saints. In any case I think Spurs are a better fit. The supporters would love his style of play- they’ve had magicians like Ardiles, Hoddle, Waddle and of course Gascoigne. They always appreciate that type of player. Though they will not want to pay what we want unless totally desperate!

Given it’s a £60m or so contract for EZe do you think they’d go nearer £50m than Everton on Tyler? I think no. But at the least it gives Everton some competition and a bit of a gee up. Palace could try to just give us £35m and throw in Rak saki on top in exchange for Tyler - theoretically that’s about £45m and if we get a good sell on that might be doable?

Not blown a whistle a while but think Whiteys answers are all correct. What I can tell you in my experience is that player respect for referees decisions has not been improved by the addition of VAR - nor by any grassroots appeals for “ Respect” campaigns. Quite the opposite. And it’s cascaded down to amateur football - my Hants FA ex level- in which it’s almost the norm. Every refs mistake is exposed in excruciating detail on the TV by the technology. Fans, players and managers alike can now slag refs off for those mistakes - and remember those mistakes knowing that video technology will back them up. The refs 1000 correct decisions before during and after are irrelevant. There’s no video technology at amateur level but supporters players and managers alike are emboldened by seeing that, yes, refs are human, and mistakes are made. Confidence in the decisions of grassroots referees has gone to a real low. With the drop in confidence comes a drop in respect. From fans from players from managers. It was never high let’s not kid ourselves but frankly it’s terrible nowadays. A guy I sent off in my last match threatened to wait behind for me after the match and beat me up. In front of everyone. Was like that’s normal. Game is fucked at grassroots. A lot of workplaces dealing with the public have these signs saying “ we will not tolerate any verbal or physical abuse of our staff” funny that because thats precisely what you do get as a ref on a pitch Saturdays and Sundays nowadays.

Most Saints fans / football lovers would want Tyler and Mateus to be starting every match - in an ideal world. There is a scenario in which we accept lucrative very late in the window offers for both but are unable to replace them permanently with our first or even second choices. I think that it’s a fair possibility. The odds that we sell up to £100m worth in this crazy market and are able to replace with anything like that current perceived value must be nil. At that stage we will be asked to pay a premium for whoever we want - Rudoni becomes a £25m not £20m player the minute it’s known we got £45m for Tyler or Mateus for example. It’s at this stage that paying a loan fee plus heavy wages for an unwanted EPl player that might be able to do a job becomes more credible an option -despite what the club says about loans. A £20m-£30m player available for just his wages and £2m fee all of a sudden does not look such a stupid option compared to perhaps overpaying for Rudoni for example. Not saying Rudoni is not worth it btw- he’s just a convenient example. I’d buy him fir £20m purely cos he’s done the biz in this league recently and I’m sure can do it again - but for £25m versus an attacking EPL player not quite working out costs just his wages and a small fee it’s an interesting choice. Every EPL team has got benched attackers who want to play so it’s not a short list..

Why this harassment? @Fabrice29got his opinion. You disagree but you make it personal. Why? He posts reasoned stuff- not drivel. Agree or disagree but you acting as the forum enforcer acting tough trying ( but failing) to put him down only reflects on you and the person you are more than anything to do with the subject at hand or the poster. Plenty people have a POV on Saintsweb, guess what not everyone agrees with your version- but most are discouraged from saying anything by this kind of abusive baiting. Give it a rest or try play the ball not the man, if you can, eh?

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This really won’t do @trousers Nobody can be happy least of all you at this kind of minimalist effort. Your mission was to give Saintsweb contemporary and insightful sitting on the fence yet biting social commentary regarding the state of Southampton Football Club. And all you’ve got is “Could be Wurst”. For you, the Forum is over.

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