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Here’s some other fun player plus cash options : BBD + £10m for Azaz or Hamer. Edozie plus £10m for Spertsyan. Charlie Taylor plus BBD + £8m for Rudoni. Cam Archer plus £10m for Hamer. BBD plus cash - renews sky sports subscription in the concourse at SMS. 😁

All possible yup and make sense. will they happen? Ahha! Add in a Charlie Taylor or a Cam Archer to the equation or a Sam Edozie or a loan of Senda or a cut price Bree whilst you’re at it. It’s a massive set of potential permutations really if you’re looking to get one of Azaz, Fellowes or Rudoni in return. Maybe even a senior CB is available as well..

I expect Stoke to set up pretty close to how Wrexham did. Will may revert to a four at the back to address the defensive porosity we’ve all seen - but it’s unlikely Mads plays from the start. He won’t have had even one full training session. If it’s not Mads in a four that probably means Yuki ( unless Ronnie Edwards /Nathan Wood get a go) If those are the choices IMO it’s more likely Will starts with three CB’s again. If we are having the same issues as before then he would change it up. Should he just say bollocks and start the match with a back four anyway is the question though. One scenario is to give player X the first 60 at RB but then let Mads have the last 20-30 and at least play the 90 minutes that way. It would show a strong degree of flexible proactivity and pragmatism at same time. But I’d say the CB union are going to be a bit worried tonight because if it works we may have 1 or 2 more than we need… PS. just seen his video in the gym from Thursday. Bloke looks fit and relaxed. He may get to run around today with squad so Maybe he does start after all !

I think that it’s not impossible the Krasnodar President may expect a brown envelope from Saints as part of the deal - and we apparently don’t do brown envelopes in the Club Shop. That might explain why agreement is at an impasse even though transfer fee and wages seem agreed or agreeable. This nonsense about not wanting a player to player championship level is 100% bollocks. Show him enough money and he’d sell him to the National League.

Oh- and they took a young GarethBale from us and he didn’t turn out bad!

So maybe the deal is £12m for Azaz plus we give them BBD plus £2m as a Thank you?🤣

I’m not certain he can or will in that Palace team - only that he’s got some similar characteristics - ball dribbling skills and playing off the wing. Oh, and probably most importantly that Palace may try £35m cash plus sell-on plus Rak-Sakiy thrown in -and that might tempt Saints. In any case I think Spurs are a better fit. The supporters would love his style of play- they’ve had magicians like Ardiles, Hoddle, Waddle and of course Gascoigne. They always appreciate that type of player. Though they will not want to pay what we want unless totally desperate!

Given it’s a £60m or so contract for EZe do you think they’d go nearer £50m than Everton on Tyler? I think no. But at the least it gives Everton some competition and a bit of a gee up. Palace could try to just give us £35m and throw in Rak saki on top in exchange for Tyler - theoretically that’s about £45m and if we get a good sell on that might be doable?

Not blown a whistle a while but think Whiteys answers are all correct. What I can tell you in my experience is that player respect for referees decisions has not been improved by the addition of VAR - nor by any grassroots appeals for “ Respect” campaigns. Quite the opposite. And it’s cascaded down to amateur football - my Hants FA ex level- in which it’s almost the norm. Every refs mistake is exposed in excruciating detail on the TV by the technology. Fans, players and managers alike can now slag refs off for those mistakes - and remember those mistakes knowing that video technology will back them up. The refs 1000 correct decisions before during and after are irrelevant. There’s no video technology at amateur level but supporters players and managers alike are emboldened by seeing that, yes, refs are human, and mistakes are made. Confidence in the decisions of grassroots referees has gone to a real low. With the drop in confidence comes a drop in respect. From fans from players from managers. It was never high let’s not kid ourselves but frankly it’s terrible nowadays. A guy I sent off in my last match threatened to wait behind for me after the match and beat me up. In front of everyone. Was like that’s normal. Game is fucked at grassroots. A lot of workplaces dealing with the public have these signs saying “ we will not tolerate any verbal or physical abuse of our staff” funny that because thats precisely what you do get as a ref on a pitch Saturdays and Sundays nowadays.

Most Saints fans / football lovers would want Tyler and Mateus to be starting every match - in an ideal world. There is a scenario in which we accept lucrative very late in the window offers for both but are unable to replace them permanently with our first or even second choices. I think that it’s a fair possibility. The odds that we sell up to £100m worth in this crazy market and are able to replace with anything like that current perceived value must be nil. At that stage we will be asked to pay a premium for whoever we want - Rudoni becomes a £25m not £20m player the minute it’s known we got £45m for Tyler or Mateus for example. It’s at this stage that paying a loan fee plus heavy wages for an unwanted EPl player that might be able to do a job becomes more credible an option -despite what the club says about loans. A £20m-£30m player available for just his wages and £2m fee all of a sudden does not look such a stupid option compared to perhaps overpaying for Rudoni for example. Not saying Rudoni is not worth it btw- he’s just a convenient example. I’d buy him fir £20m purely cos he’s done the biz in this league recently and I’m sure can do it again - but for £25m versus an attacking EPL player not quite working out costs just his wages and a small fee it’s an interesting choice. Every EPL team has got benched attackers who want to play so it’s not a short list..

Why this harassment? @Fabrice29got his opinion. You disagree but you make it personal. Why? He posts reasoned stuff- not drivel. Agree or disagree but you acting as the forum enforcer acting tough trying ( but failing) to put him down only reflects on you and the person you are more than anything to do with the subject at hand or the poster. Plenty people have a POV on Saintsweb, guess what not everyone agrees with your version- but most are discouraged from saying anything by this kind of abusive baiting. Give it a rest or try play the ball not the man, if you can, eh?

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This really won’t do @trousers Nobody can be happy least of all you at this kind of minimalist effort. Your mission was to give Saintsweb contemporary and insightful sitting on the fence yet biting social commentary regarding the state of Southampton Football Club. And all you’ve got is “Could be Wurst”. For you, the Forum is over.

Have you been talking to my kids?

If he’s played bundesliga recently then he must be extremely capable of playing bundesliga recently. ✅.This is a gewinnen gewinnen both ways. 😁. PS This is not serious it is just for fun. My fun I might add.

You guys wouldn’t recognise comedy if it hit you in the face.

2goals last season from 23 starts. He’s 49 years old- looks are deceptive. Will be playing African Nations Cup from December 25 until April 26 minimum. Then need a break. Won’t play in September cos of needing induction. Nor if it’s too cold in November either. Has got three words in English “ Where’s the money” . Aside from that looks like a sound purchase if only SuperSpirs can pull it off. He’s worth about £3m but hopefully we can pay £8m plus add ons. 😵‍💫

Or what’s happened to Sesay?

Massively this. 👆. He needs time but he’s a starter for me.

@coalman I mean that if eduard is our first choice and it does not happen - there’s a good chance it will end up like we are only left with a last minute loan of someone like the Cornet deal - which was a disaster. Fellowes or Rondoni are a different type of player we’ve looked at so if the Armenian falls through my hope is that we will push harder for one of those. Except neither look cheap - hence a last minute loan of someone we’ve not yet mentioned is still on the cards..…

I’d we dont get the guy this has got a Maxwell Cornet rerun written over it…

He’s on the internet 8 hrs ago post match for all the world -it looks to me - like he’s smirking about if there has been another offer. And his answer to that question was “ everyone knows”. As if “yes there’s another club interested and I’m interested “ more than “ yes and it’s been saints all along”. I think we been played. U less the “ other offer” is our upgrade. But I doubt that. He’s had a bigger club ask I’m sure

Players who will probably start : Bazunu, Stephens, THB, WeeMan, Charles, Downes, Fernandes, Robinson, Armstrong. Decisions for Still : Drop Quarshie for Edwards/Wood? Drop Welington for Manning? Unlikely to start either of two CF’s who have been sick even if they are recovered - but I would. My 3CB team : Bazunu THB Stephens Quarshie Downes Charles Fernandes. Wee Man Armstrong Downs. Robinson

On balance I think we will get around £40m for him. And the add ons - in time and if activated - will make it worth £45m-£50m. The add ons are not guaranteed. Only EPL clubs plus a small basket of CL others can afford to even contemplate this kind of fee package for a lower league up and coming talent. The realistic market is about 20-25clubs - at best. Take away the clubs that don’t need /want him ( though this can change day by day- Everton get blown away by Leeds tonight for example and there resolve to buy Tyler may reemerge ) and there’s probably less than a dozen runners and riders for him between now and end of window. It could be a tight call between him staying until the next window when clubs who have had a bad start and need a talent splash the cash- or clubs that have done well and wish to consolidate ditto- or leaving. My personal view : currently it’s 100% he’s leaving, 90% its in this window.

The Gamblers Paradox !