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Let’s see - graduated at a top research intensive when few working class secondary school pupils from Southampton achieved that, went onto to be postgraduate qualified. Senior figure of my profession since. So if I’m thick, you must either be the bloke Whitey Grandad has as his avatar, or you’ve got an IQ of 3 and look like one of the boneheads getting sentenced in the riots. Hmmm, I wonder? Frankly, calling anyone thick with the appalling lack of literacy you post with is someone who lives in the Crystal Palace throwing metorites at my windows. Grammar to you is the old person you clumsily finger at Hilsea Lido (Rallyboy, the PTS thread 2014 or so). You support a racist, facist, and multiple convicted felon who tried to overturn a democractic election in 2020. My grandfathers successfully fought the dictators of the 1930s in France, Italy, Africa and the Far East. Just so you can support Trump, Farage, Musk and others enabling Putin, today’s equivalent. Pity that you weren’t set a better example by your own family or you might have educated yourself better so you don’t support facism.

I don’t have any political hero’s as I don’t follow cults like you with the Orange MAGA moron. There are some politicians I admire or admired e.g. Ashdown, Kennedy, Heseltine, Clarke, Mowlam, Cook, Davey, Streeting - but well aware they all have flaws. Mine are sporting e.g. Botham, Danny Wallace, Steve Moran, Eric Bristow, Freddie Flintoff, Ben Stokes, Michael Vaughan, Graham Thorpe (RIP), James Anderson, Shane Warne, and Lambert and MLT, even with their nutty views.

I hop you are right

Your hero doesn’t tend to answer questions very truthfully and isn’t big on accuracy https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jpn2q76n1o

That’s not the reason it’s a problem. UK higher education educational provision and R&D is one of our few remaining globally successful and recognised industries. Or it was until the last set of plastic MAGA politicians in the previous government dragged it into the culture wars. The issue is two-fold: 1) Soft power around the world. It’s a key leverage in trade negotiations, and politically having access to train future world leaders means that we are less likely to have Putins and Trumps, and they have a relationship with us. Secondly, it means governance can improve in their nations of origin which reduces illegal migration which we don‘t need or want. As America has found out the hard way, isolationism doesn’t mean you can close the curtains on what’s outside or be immune from its impacts. Better to engaged and shaping things. 2) Domestic, regional and civic economics. Just on the raw figures from the HoL, you are talking 768k FT jobs, £71bn gross value added and £116bn overall economic output. So the latter is all of the SMEs who rely on long-term service contracts with their local university, hundreds and thousands of them. With home fees stagnant for a decade, most of the sector is bankrupt without overseas students. They should never have been in net migration figures in the first place and their accommodation is not an issue capacity-wise, and again landlords are reliant on that income in a lot of towns and cities. Housing capacity plus all of the new halls of residences built during the years of low interest rates means that’s not an issue and most don’t stay beyond their period of study so it’s not a constantly escalating figure either. We just need to be better at using CPOs as an ‘shit or get of off the potty’ and saying to owners ‘use it, renovate it or put it as an auction log within 18 months of notice for truly derelict properties’. The longer they are derelict the more expensive to return to use https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ngzq91323o If you want less overseas students, fine, but that will cost you circa £10bn extra taxes to close the gap because no government is going to make a fee hike for a while. Universities thought they had the ability to act as a true market but the Tories post-Cameron and Osborne didn’t understand what that was. And that’s with mergers and probably some closures in a slimmed down sector. Expensive business Brexit. Given we don’t make cars in the same numbers post-Brexit, and manufacturing isn’t recovering at scale, probably a sound idea not to destroy one of the new global industries we have left.

Barry Bannan is a good little player, but mid-30s now, and operates in certain midfield space. Even Martin managed to flood the midfield twice last season and stop that. Rooney names him as a threat but then plays a two man CM. I wish him well because I like Plymouth as a club but that performance today was as bad as anything Saints produced in Ralph’s later 2021/22, Pellegrino, Nathan Jones. Sturrock opening day at Villa was probably the easiest comparison in terms of how wide open midfield was and the low energy levels. The lack of organisation on the pitch was frightening.

He is, but Plymouth are not set up right here at all. Wide open in midfield, getting caught in possession in their own half, and the front players are not in the game. Whittaker, a player Saints are rumoured to be tracking has had 5 touches of the ball tops. Wendies already singing ‘sacked in the morning’ to Rooney. Its so bad, Weds could and should have scored three more and Adam Forshaw has ‘Foreshaw’ on the back of his shirt.

Lewis Payne has made both Cheltenham goals and best player on the pitch so far. Good start for Michael Flynn v Newport, his long-time club. Away end full, they’ve travelled over the border in good numbers. Then I posted the above and jinxed it. Lewis gave the ball away and further into the Newport move brought down his opposite number quite needlessly conceding a penalty. 2-2 at HT

This is a tannoy announcement Saintswebbers. Calling Soggy to the Lounge. The batshit crazy GM has started a new thread entitled ‘Tommy Robinson Appreciation Thread’ and it wouldn’t be the same without your contributions and the characters of Maidstone. 😂😂😂

This is true but SR still allowed a child with Excel to spunk all of that money with only Lavia really being the part. They’ve got to own it. Last season was mildly better and getting the Tella fee worked well for all parties. Decent business so far tbf, but they’ve dug themselves a hole with Bazanu and McCarthy, SR just need to suck up the wages on a decent keeper loan and loan Gavin out in L1/L2 when he’s fit for a couple of seasons. Even if it’s £100k p/w. Prior to them, Les pissed all of the VVD £85m away bar Stu and Jan. He must have dyscalculia as Lazio probably thought they were getting £1.7m for Hoedt (about right for a Serie A reserve player). £17m for Moi and more for Vesty….not keen on players with any pace then…but Carrillo topped it off. It will take a few years of up/down with the parachute payments to sort out the incompetence. Feel a bit sorry for Russell Martin in a way, as I did with Ralph. Not sure Ipswich have invested wisely either in the spine of their team as we did in 2012 but we will see.

You’ve won nothing, the only winner from your crass post earlier today about ‘socialist’ governments spending other people’s money was CB Fry who rubbed your nose in it by pointing out the unarguable figures that the national debt to GDP nearly doubled from 2010 to 2019 let alone since then. And it was far fucking lower than even 2010 before the global credit crunch. Tony Blair a socialist 😂- stay off the morning drinkies John Labour has managed the economy better since 1997. No amount of cut and pasted from the DT is going to change that. We’ll see what Starmer and Reeves do but right now I’d quit whilst you’re behind because you already come across like a pissed old fart. And this from a Lib Dem voter (in a seat overturning a 20k plus Tory majority so I know what winning looks like) who has little care for Labour. Your inability to grasp basic economics goes alongside all of the other topics you’ve been 😆 wrong about: Brexit and Deutsche Bank UK GE last month being a 1992 like Tory surprise victory Source of Grenfell Tower fire The riots 2020 US election and about to be wrong on 2024 Supporting Rupert Lowe as SFC owner (probably too left wing for you in the end although supported your beloved Brexit) Just the ones I could think of 😂😂😂 We don’t need to resort to abuse, you just run from thread to thread humiliated. And two of them YOU started! Please predict a Newcastle 5-0 win and it’s a certainty we’ll cause an upset.

Despite all the talk of trouble in Southampton, the night’s most notable disturbances, and they’re mild compared with the last few days, were down the eastern end of the M27, where around 200 idiots (BBC) blocked the M275 (you could argue that stopping people going into Portsmouth is a social good…) https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/anti-immigration-protestors-block-m275-portsmouth-4733688 A bit of counter chanting and police separating the two sides in Aldershot, and briefly 100 lads in Blackpool which quickly fizzled out but doesn’t sound like the Aldershot situation will escalate. The only area of concern remaining is Chatham https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy4e9r8qjwo

Actually I think the reverse will happen, the EFL getting underway will draw away anyone who was thinking about getting involved as they’ll want to see their team, meet up with friends, usual pub pre-match. Plus the sentences coming through now are a deterrent to the more casual troublemaker. I’ve not seen the weather forecast but a bit of rain might help too.

It’s simple, the GMP is still seeking further evidence so it can confirm and press the charges in relation to what actually happened on 24 July in three distinct phases as a far more complex case https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2024/july/gmp-opens-public-portal-in-appeal-for-further-information-about-events-leading-up-to-footage-filmed-in-manchester-airport-terminal-two/ If the Southport ‘protestor’ can get 3 years for assaulting a copper, with the sheer violence of what was captured on camera at the airport against particularly a female copper and any potentially racially aggravated elements in those prior phases either on the plane, luggage terminal or cafe (the police have to be certain what happened when and where in the chain of events at the trial), the sentences if guilty in the Manchester case could exceed that threshold and more, contingent on any prior track-record as well. They will almost certainly be incarcerated for the violence against the coppers, I know from experience of working with them many years ago that the cops will want/expect that and the judge won’t accept any grandstanding from their new lawyer. No doubt he will make the most of the stamp in an attempt to reduce the sentence. The job of confirming the charges has just become more difficult with the original plank of a brief (under investigation for malpractice himself) who posted the stamp video without the rest of the context in the first place being replaced with Aamer Anwar. Not a pleasant character either but in legal terms this is Bashley’s manager being replaced with someone in the Premier League, so the case has to be watertight. The cases are totally different in their complexity, especially as we don’t really know yet when the motive was behind the Manchester Airport events, hence trying to get witnesses going back to the flight. Whereas the Southport offence’s motivations aren’t hard to figure. Those lads are looking at a jail term though, Anwar will make the most of the stamp and try to claim media coverage compromises a fair trial, all the usual tricks of the criminal law trade in high profile cases. Reality is that the first lawyer, Yakoob, was a huge part of the reason for that. He’s had his 5 more minutes of fame. You asked a reasonable question, but spoiled it with the pathetic hashtag.

Are the Portsmouth cases already underway in the courts? That’s quick from the CPS

Run their club properly, with full focus on scouting, the first team and academy without any gimmicks. It’s what Saints used to do 2009-16 before Les Reed et al and then Semmens, onto Rasmus, thought they were cleverer than everyone else.

I see Aamer Anwar has taken over the case, a high profile grifter replacing a genuinely vile cunt in Yakoob (look up his remarks on women). Yakoob helped stir up a lot of the current, equally as much as Robinson’s misinformation about the Southport killings, disorders with that gross distorted video without the full context. The authorities cannot give Anwar an inch, get the evidence collected on those two lads behaviour, charges in and stack them up like fillings in a Subway sandwich. There needs to be as equally a strong deterrent in the Manchester case with the verdict as there is with the far right violence. No doubt there will be trouble in Rochdale afterwards and more work for the courts but we’ve got to debilitate the extremists on both sides. That would stop all of this two tier bollocks morons like Musk keep coming out with. He clearly followed apartheid closely in his native South Africa https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/01/musk-south-africa-apartheid-chant-malema/# If nothing else, football banning orders are working well, trouble is that the ex-England Travel Club, EDL and Combat 18 boneheads were banned from smashing up Germany’s town and cities this summer at the Euros so they smash up their own instead. Genius.

Immigration was clearly a big driver behind the referendum but even more so was the economic argument of taking back control via levelling up and the promise of moving emphasis away from a multicultural capital. Neither has happened, largely because the Brexit vote was promising things that were very hard to deliver, let alone quickly. The 2019 GE then reinforced that, because as the Conservative pundit Daniel Finkenstein says. Boris was promising big state, levelling up interventionalism in the midlands and north, and small state conservatism in the south, which was already cross about Brexit as it has hit the sectors where their skilled jobs are. Somebody wasn’t going to get what they want, and in the end it was no-one. The only people who did were educated English nats who obsessed about treaties and English exceptionalism. But working people as Phillip Hammond said, didn’t vote to be poorer or for their health service to fall through the floor. History tells us it’s easier to blame someone different to you. And it’s a similar story in a lot of areas in the midlands and north with higher Islamic populations. Young lads getting angry about lack of prospects and not having the manufacturing jobs their grandfathers and in some cases parents had, with austerity then stripping core public services away after the industrial decline 1970s onwards. If immigration fuels the far right, Gaza is fuelling Islamist activists. However, whilst I find them equally as revolting as Robinson’s boneheads, they did get organised and give Labour a few blows on the chin in the GE, taking one likely cabinet ministers’ seat, nearly taking Streeting’s and another, plus Phillips. Their intimidating behaviour was widely condemned and onerous. I’m not keen on TUs but pre-1979 it was a way of collectively organising and giving working people a voice, and it left a long-term void. I’ve seen plenty of comments on here about different treatment, two tier policing which is nonsense. The cops struggled equally in Harehills and post-Southport, as most forces would. Both have been widely condemned cross-party. Harehills was no better, social workers are entitled to go about their duties without violence and intimidation. There will be some stiff sentences arising. On the Manchester thing, which has provided some of the fuel, the GMP are waiting on more information before confirming the exact charges. As with Harehills, if you hit or attack a copper seriously, the sentence is going to punitive. Always has, always will. Finally, people forget the emotions swirling around a tragedy like Southport. It makes all of our hearts cry, it’s just appalling. The parents of the victims need time to put their children to rest now with their lives never the same again, without morons following a far right leader sunning himself in Cyprus grinning as he tweets more misinformation, or masked Islamists in Bolton shouting Allu Akbar. Fuck extremists of all types. But if working class communities want core public services back, want thriving economies again, get organised and put pressure on the main parties to prioritise what’s important. I’m sure the fact more austerity is coming won’t have helped. But don’t think Reform are the answer, becuase their economic strategy was x10 worse than Truss’s as a radical free market clusterfuck.

I’m a Lib Dem voter but even I know your penultimate sentence is incorrect about Harehills and I don’t think a huge amount of Labour https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/yvette-cooper-condemns-leeds-riot/ If disaffected white blokes - which they mostly are - think Robinson has a grain of truth to him, then they’re even thicker than I thought. This whole thing has been driven by his lies and misinformation about the Southport murders and more over the weekend. Look at his criminal record, the guy can’t even lie in bed straight. The Tory right pushed for the referendum - didn’t deliver on any of it because it couldn’t be without many, many years to do it. Didn’t deliver on levelling up bar some marginal seats which they all lost last month anyway. It’s not a fucking accident that these riots - bar the central London ones - have happened in Brexit dominated areas. They wanted immigration to stop straight away but to re-pivot an economy, a society, one with an ageing population, wasn’t a short-term job. An in/out referendum wasn’t going to help. The new government has boxed itself in - £22bn black hole but as Private Eye says, a £40bn pa black hole from Boris and Frost’s ‘deal’ which they forgot to switch the oven for. Brexit and the premise was snake oil. If you think Reform will help, have a closer look at their economic plans and the IFS’s assessment. Lunacy and far worse than Truss’s even. Guaranteed to fuck over white working communities to new levels and depths.

The fan who put that banner over the lower east saying ‘Mr Blobby In, Branfoot Out’ has finally gotten the first part of their wish, even if it has taken three decades and a new stadium

One person’s perspective. And yes, it shows a significant minority of people can switch ideologies quickly based on exposure to cultural issues. The 2019 election showed that the TU movement of the 1970s and 80s was culturally conservative. James Callaghan was. But the crowds are chanting for Robinson, and it ain’t Derek. Tommy is as far right as Griffin and Tyndall were. People are fed up with lack of access to GPs, key services, lack of pay rises, cost of items every day. 99% of this site will be. But the overwhelming majority aren’t smashing up town centres, community facilities, looting shops, and ignoring the pleas of the Southport victims’ families in response based on deliberate racist misinformation. It’s not much different to the riots around the country of the early 00s where a paediatrician’s got vandalised in Paulsgrove as part of tabloid hysteria about a nonce around every corner after the Soham, Whiting and other cases. Red Army - used up my 3 posts - so responding here. If the ANL were looting and rioting, they’d be called lefties. And understandably so. When it happens during G20 summits, it’s unwashed anarchists. The rioters are being described as far right amongst all mainstream media outlets all around the globe https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/01/uk/southport-attack-disinformation-far-right-riots-intl-gbr/index.html The police forces are describing known ‘faces’ popping up who the football intelligence officers track where they are on England travel club bans and domestic match bans. As for Reeves comments in 2016, she’s on the pulse then. But it’s about a sensible debate about what immigration we need, where domestic skills can improved to reduce need for lower skilled migration and the flow of illegal immigration we don’t want or need. But having an obsession with numbers doesn’t help and Reform’s net zero is bonkers with an ageing population. Duck - immigration, especially illegal immigration, needs dealing with urgently. And we know a key driver behind the referendum result was concern about immigration. But these riots are do with misinformation by far right sources because a UK citizen is black and extremists really want it to be a Muslim to prove a point. Public disorder also tends to ferment after crimes against younger kids, understandable in some ways because they’re innocent and it hits us all hard. I hate what’s happened and the lad should never see freedom again. The priority ought to be supporting the families of the Southport victims not the far right hijacking it against the families express wishes.

When the victims’ parents have begged the EDL/BNP to stop the violence, looting and damage to other citizens property and community assets, for the far right to continue last night what, 200 miles away, is astonishingly callous and ignorant. And yes, they are the far right doing it. If it was the Anti Nazi League, BLM or Momentum doing it, it would be just as appalling. But it isn’t, despite the pathetic whataboutery. Torching a CAB in one of the most deprived parts of the country - that’s really helping white, and all types of working class people isn’t it lads?

He comes from Bursledon and seemingly has been controversial there too according to articles online (Echo). I wish it was a bit closer to that end of the M27 as he’d be ideal for Pompey Online, it’s full of posters with his views on this and the other idiot thread he started. Maybe now they’re in the Championship he might switch allegiances as he hardly ever posts seemingly on the actual SFC related part of this site anymore? Just to educate him, autism even at the severe end of spectrum is no mitigation whatsoever for the crimes charged with and he deserves to rot in hell, but it does explain why the parents and siblings had some problems managing him. It’s very rare but there are other cases by perps who aren’t black people born in the UK. Neurodiverse UK citizens come in nice, ordinary, horrible and evil, just like every other segment of the population https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/35086/tw-autistic-teenagers-found-guilty-of-heinous-crime They are also more likely than the average to be victims of violent crime due to lack of social awareness https://news.sky.com/story/oliver-stephens-murder-two-teens-sentenced-for-luring-autistic-boy-to-park-and-murdering-him-12416456 He’s got previous form, go back and see some of his posts on Grenfell at the time and the Brexit thread which showed violent intent to other posters with different views Badger mentions. Doesn’t care much for the facts does John, but in his head would love to be out there with the EDL boys, but the body was never up to it. Look at this, far right morons and ex-football firms/England travel club on banning orders smashing up a cop shop (law and order) and torching a CAB. In the most deprived part of the country where the citizens need it the most. Edit - just seen his post where he says there’s no evidence the rioters are far right - they’re chanting for Tommy Robinson in all of the reports you dense skate prick. But then he probably doesn’t need the MSM, probably in the MLT camp of batshit crazy conspiracy theories https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c0jqjxe8d1yt Because the thick cunts see the first lie online posted by Robinson and Farage, and smash up their country. But then Bannon loves Robinson, GM loves Trump and both Trump and Robinson are convicted, racist felons. Never mind that the actual parents of the victims, grieving for a loss we can barely understand it’s so dreadful, have asked for this nonsense to stop and that’s it’s making the pain x10 worse. Yes CB Fry, he is indeed a cunt, and to add a very lonely, and an attention seeking one. Well he’s getting what he wanted but not liking what he’s seeing. It isn’t racist to want to debate immigration at all, but it is to do so on the basis of stirring up hate on blatant misinformation.

He’s not the type of target forward we need either, and have done since Pelle. We’ve got AA and BBD now coming in from wider areas, but lacking that focal point, and Che wasn’t really it either, he’s a second striker in a two up, although we were worse when he didn’t play. Broja is still living off that loan spell with a serious injury inbetween. Let someone else help Chelsea with their FFP issues. Ramsdale is obvious though, unless Arsenal want a £10m loan fee or something absurd.

He’s 18 next week, hence why the judge allowed the reporting restrictions on his name to be lifted exceptionally. Not that it excuses the appalling things he has seemingly done, he won’t see outside of Broadmoor or Rampton again after the trial, but some of the comments on here (not yours) about his parents and siblings are ignoring what a very profoundly autistic teenager can be like. ASD is very different according to the level and it’s huge between high functioning, higher functioning and the severe end, then you add in potentially other conditions.