Fuengirola Saint

Only if you vote Labour ;-) ( well you are a Nazi though )

That´s his problem, he´s obviously an intelligent bloke but exudes this arrogance which gets your hackles up, if you disagree with him you are either thick or ignorant.( I hope you read this Wes )

I understand what you are saying but why do the very rich need this extra help, i just cannot correlate this. They don´t need it!

Thats what i meant,forget whether you agree with the tax or not, do you think it right that during an economic crisis such as this one,the Conservatives should raise the ceiling of this tax,taking into account that other taxes will have to rise?

Well said! At least you´re not defending the indefensible like some of your mates on here.

Oh thats the one who salted all his ill gotten gains away in The USA wasn´t it? ;-)

Hasn´t he made that up with the appreciation of the Euro against the pound since then?

I´m an immigrant or am i? Being British living in Spain am i an immigrant or someone living in the same state i.e the EU? I do have an NIE number which means Foreigners identification number, so yes, i think that makes me an immigrant.

I didn´t write the above statement although it appears so in the post above.

I know why the Tories raised VAT to 17.5%, VAT is not a fair tax it´s regressive. It´s name should tell us something "Value Added Tax " it was meant to be a tax on luxuries, over here there is even 7% Vat on food :-o

Not for having an alternative opinion but for insinuating that a Rupert Lowesqe Prime Minister would be good for the country,look at the mess he created at Saints with his stubborn and arrogant attitude

To be honest i don´t know what i want, if the Tories win we will have to put up with the news being full of smug knobheads,but if as Mervyn King says " The party that wins this election will be out of power for a generation because of all the unpopular measures needed " i reckon i could put up with a few smug faces :-)

Hope so.

If he wasn´t he should have been!

Are you just dull or are you trolling? I wasn´t debating the finer points of whether lower or higher taxes were the best way forward, i was pointing out to somebody else that basically in the budget in 1979 they paid for the cut in ( both bands ) Income tax by raising VAT and other indirect taxes. You really need to sort that superior attitude that you have, its a bit tiresome. I have been debating on quite friendly terms with the Tories on here.Maybe you just a little peeved they are not going to win with a majority

Well he´s a copy cat then ;-)

I will admit to being confused by Brown saying if the Tories don´t raise NI they will be taking money out of the economy, it´s obvious the money is going to be in the economy if it´s still in your wage packet. Are you sure? I had that down as J Callaghan in 1976.

It was 31 years ago, it´s not the amount that was under discussion, i said they had to find 4 billion to pay for the tax cut so they raised indirect taxation

Now i know you are a wind up merchant!

Not really because after the tax cuts, petrol duty was increased, public spending cut and more was raised by selling BP shares but they had to still find another 4 billion, thus the rise in VAT

Could you remind me again who raised VAT first from 7% to 12.5% then to 15% and finally to 17.5%? Also could you furnish me with the details as to who raised VAT on electricity and gas to 17.5% and who was it that introduced the Fuel Duty escalator?

Of course, to pay for the top rate income tax cut

No i´m saying the Tory cabinet wouldn´t even need the salary at all, they are all millionaires anyway, they could do the job as a way of giving something back to the society that enriched them so

Lets be honest a 5% pay cut for them is akin to me losing a euro, that said they could all afford a paycut.