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No i stand in the Itchen North, i moved from the Northam because i started to find the people in the Northam embarrassing and annoying, I have absolutely no desire to be anywhere near those people in Northam, and at away days it's specifically those kind of people that I wish didn't go. If they make the Northam into a "kop" it'll mean they enforce sitting elsewhere in the ground, that will mean i either have to stand somewhere that i'd rather hammer nails into eyeballs than be in, or sit down in a sanitised version of my current place. The idea that it will improve atmosphere is rubbish, it'll just create a single noddy filled space and kill off the other pockets that have their own cultures and reasons for being where they are. Unfortunately a huge amount of people in the northam can't understand why people wouldn't want to join them - maybe because they don't find cringeworthy songs, awful bantz and waving other teams flags as embarrassing - and think it's a fantastic idea Edit to say: The ideal for me would be to make both the itchen north blocks 1/2/3 safe standing and the northam 42 round to the kinglsand north safe standing, then put an over 25 age limit on blocks 1/2/3 so that the annoying creche that moved to the itchen north would fuck off back to the northam and the itchen north could have it's old culture back

I'd put good money on the fact the people like that are the same people constantly singing about the skates, doing the noncey adam/stuart armstrong song and singing about libraries at away games. They will also be the people who stand in a Northam "kop" carrying on with their stupid "Bantz" and generally embarrassing the city (most likely a city they don't even come from). It'll be an utter noddy fest if it goes ahead and i'd much rather keep those dins contained in the Northam so i can avoid being even remotely close to them

If anyone ever wanted a prime example of why a Northam "kop" will never work then look at this, some of our absolute mouth breathing noddies took a luton flag in for the watford game. I'm not sure about you but i'd rather deep clean my ballsack in caustic soda than stand next to this level of red lodge every game, properly embarrassing shit that sums up just how shit our support has become https://x.com/SFCAlfie1885/status/1754987673603723682?s=20

Yeah that's not really a rumour to be fair

And this is exactly the reason a "kop end" will never work for me, i'd rather pour caustic soda into my own eyes than stand in the Northam with dins doing this personally Go one step further and half the away end dressed as librarians and the other half dressed as Michael Jackson and sing librarian girl at them. Then the librarians can respond with "dewey system, we only use that"

You'll never play like Kyle Walker Peters You'll never do whatever Kyle can do You'll never score like Kyle Walker Peters He's going to get saints into the top two And we'll dance, and drink and screw And there's nothing you can do... Oh KYLE da da da da Walker da da da da PETERS

Done it loads of times, to the tune of Raspberry Beret by Prince His name is Kyle Walker-Peters, Brought him from Tottenham but we should've paid more. His name is Kyle Walker-Peters, England's best full back who we all adore. Edit to say: Ah balls you said E Minor when Raspberry Beret is in D, so you'd need something like Paranoid by Black Sabbath or Come as you are by Nirvana to be in E Minor. Although Franz Ferdinand Take Me Out is in E minor is of the right era for a lot of our fans and the chorus could work I say, don't you know? Walker Peters on his own He will, TAKE US UP Final edit: Just realised Elanor Rigby is in E Minor (i mean so is Seven Nation Army but god alone knows we've used that one waaaay too much) So, Kyle Walker Peters Picks up the ball and he runs down the wing Southampton sing Kyle Walker Peters Wearing Saints famous red and white He's dynamite Ohhh We've got Kyle Walker Peters A hero for the scum

Why are we completely incapable of coming up with anything new?

Well that's one of the three i heard had a price on their head gone, be interesting if the other two are still here by the end on of the window

That bunch are one of the main reasons we avoid drinking anywhere near our own fans as much as possible, it's deeply embarrassing to be associated with yokels like that to be honest. Funny thing is they want to play at being a bit green street but can only do it because football is a lot more sanitised now, if they'd tried that even back in the 90s it would've been done once then learnt the consequences. Apparently he had some mental health issues, you still see him about but he seems to have grown up, lost the indiana jones hat and is acting more normally these days

If you're who i think you are you are then you definitely know all of us lot from various aways mush and not a soul would want us as influencers 🤣

I think it's harsh to pin this on younger fans, plenty of younger fans don't want to look like confused yokels with the intelligence of a house brick. My opinion is it's more of a social media problem than an age problem, it's just that many of those that want social media validation happen to be younger

So it would appear our fans actually outdid themselves with how shit the away support can be at Watford, by actually singing about libraries in a pub before the game had even started. Seriously what is wrong with these people? Surely given it seems a lot of us hate this crap maybe it's time to start openly telling these dinlows to shut up? https://x.com/paul_sorrell/status/1751584090669691025?s=20

Always thought of him as this generation's Jimmy Case, came in with bags of experience and talent but was never a "star". Comfortably pound for pound the best signing we have made in recent times though and made the team tick in a brilliant but understated way. Was always surprised he was never made the captain as he was exactly the sort of player you'd expect to be captain. Also on the times i met him he came across as a just a genuinely good, and very level headed, bloke.

Still think we sacked Puel way too early, he was a successful manager for us who was forced out by players egos. Yeah he was negative in the Europa league but some of the football at away games in the premier league was as good as i can remember. We sold out what we took, but we only took half the available allocation. For me it's still one of the best Saints away ends i've been in, properly good support all game and those goal celebrations... Up their with Spurs in the cup in 88/89, Derby away in the play offs and Fratton for the 4-0 as the best Saints end i've seen.

The Newcastle Wor Flags lot are now doing noncey "corteos" to st james park and banging drums. So they're exactly the same as Arsenal's Tarquin army. Truth is you know our most embarrassing elements, like the Saint Rob bloke who's all over social media, will start trying to do our own "ultras" thing via this. I mean they all did the f*cking "poznan" at Arsenal away.

Everton must have been flying in recent years given they have away fans down the side and with crap views, and Wolves too, man those two must be challenging for the title every season. I find it hilarious how they make those videos of themselves stood in a tunnel to make it look huge and intimidating, then you see it from another angle and it's only about 20 nerds dressed in black with a drum 🤣 Can't imagine how shit our version would be, a bunch of spotty kids in the underpass by six dials singing pompey get battered whilst holding a flag with a skull of it... it would actually be more embarrassing than the palace nigels and their macaroni and pva posters 🤣

Like who? Every single club that does it at the moment are doing the ultra's bollocks, Ipswich, Boro, Palace, Huddersfield, Arsenal all come to mind. By all means try and organise a better atmosphere but the minute you give yourselves a name and wave stupid flags around you're on route to a drum and a prick with a megaphone.

"Big crowd flags – like you see in the leagues of Spain & Italy! And why not? Think big! Run a group of supporters who have a passion for stadium atmosphere? Free to commit time outside of matchday to meet and plan new ideas – new songs, flags, player entrance music – anything, we will discuss it! Sign below – lets meet." Sounds a lot like noddy ultras nonsense to me

I cannot think of a better argument for keeping the away fans where they are than this shite, the last thing we need is tinpot fancy dress ultras, and if they have to happen then keep them the f*ck away from us in their own little bit in the Northam

I think Parson's is post rationalising a decision that's already been made for marketing rather than being dishonest.

Don't doubt he's mentioned it. But i know for a fact this decision has absolutely nothing to do with him.

I find it hilarious that the club are putting out the marketing line that this has anything to do with Russell Martin when he had absolutely nothing to do with it. Also love that Parson's has basically admitted the fan consultation is pointless, and they're going to do it anyway.

You seem to be massively missing the point here, i haven't said i'm against it, i've said i have no interest in moving over to it. In fact I also said that it's good for the kids to have their own area. What i'm skeptical of is people saying "well the itchen north will link up with the northam", I don't think that's true, my point was that a lot of us don't want to go to the northam (kop or not) because they don't really like the people in the northam. Which then begs the question, where are these extra 3k people coming from? The Itchen north probably doesn't hold much more than 800 people, and a lot don't want to move so not there. The kingsland north is less than 500. Back of the chapel? God knows in the 20's at most. So what's that leaved? Displaced from the chapel blocks the away fans move to? Kingsland/Chapel who don't want to be by the away fans? That's where i think the idea that we'll suddenly have a big wall of noise falls down. I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with a thin spread of "noise" across the safe standing at the back, then a quieter front few rows of people sitting.

Except that's not true, take a look at away games, they're pretty much unbearable because of our dinlow element. Every other song is a song about the skates or libraries, everything is sung at half a million miles an hour, people force "limbs" so they can film them and share them on social media. I know plenty of decent old school saints who are on the cusp of giving up away games because the happy bus lot make it so bad. Now i know part of that is me being old, you can't escape that, but the fact we have a split between Itchen North and Northam currently gives me a choice at home games of avoiding the worst parts of that. To think that some of us will move over because we want to make noise is completely missing the point of why we are where we are in the first place. Most of the people I talk to have absolutely no desire of standing with the fans in the Northam, because we don't really like them. More power to those nippers for doing their thing, and it's great that they've got a place to do it, but don't act like it's a place many of us want to be, and don't be so naive as to think we'll suddenly magic another 3k people who want to be there either.