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For the record, neither dune nor yourself could ever be my nemesis.

What a moronic position, Bazza. If you were dune, would you admit it on the other forum? Go play with your son or read a Labour newsletter or something

Hey, we're just trying to explain WHY exactly young people are so f**ked. Globalisation + EU = big part of that.

Poor effort Tokes. You want to show how mental Russians are, take to the roads.

Yeah, I'm conflicted. I'm broadly against nationalism, but a bit of self-interested nationalism might be what we need. Still very unsure on UKIP, and you can bet that if a referendum is held by an advocate of the EU ( e.g. everyone else ), the campaigning will be full of scare stories and lies.

Well, it's a damned shame that each and every one of our mainstream political parties is committed to the EU project and that UKIP, the only people arguing stridently for an exit, might be full of racists. Personally I have no real problem with Farage, but many of his supporters are foaming at the mouth. Perhaps that's just the consequence of being passionate, but it'll give people pause before they decide to vote for UKIP.

The liberal elite aren't the problem, Barry. It's the actual elite you need to be aware of. The sort of people who allow the likes of Cadburys to be sold to Kraft. The people that hold stocks and demand that a company has an Eastern European / Far Eastern base to compete in the globalised economy. The business leaders that clamour for more Europe, because it suits them down to the ground. As I said in my earlier post, the last Labour government does have a lot to answer for, but they're far from having exclusive responsibility for this mess. Ted Heath got us into Europe. John Major signed us up for Maastrict, which created the Single Market we know today. Labour's big mistake during their tenure was to allow early admission to newly acceded member states. It's worth pointing out that seven years later, the UK would have had no power to stop people from coming over anyway. Would have just taken another seven years for it to happen.

Go for the Steam keys. Exactly the same benefits of buying on Steam (updates, launch from a single app). All you do is bang your key into Steam. FM will then download in Steam (as if you've purchased it from there).

There are a lot of things going on here. Most are a natural consequence of the way our economy is going and the political situation that underpins it. Speak to a few of the older blokes on here, and I'm sure you'll have people tell you that you could leave one job on a Friday only to enter another on the next Monday, all without the nonsense of having qualifications. That was the Britain of 40-50 years ago. Today, many of those jobs have disappeared from Britain altogether and will never come back. The power of globalisation if you like. Compounding the problem is our arrangement in Europe, meaning that young people have to fight for jobs with hungry Eastern European migrants, and will have a real problem - not just in terms of competition, but also with things like apprenticeships, etc. Why would an employer spend years developing an 18 year old fresh out of college when they can just employ someone from Eastern Europe that is fully qualified and undimmed by the general apathy that Brits have toward menial work? It's an employer's market that contains fewer jobs. Risk-averse employers will almost always go for known quantities over youth. Just another example of what can go wrong when you let free markets run wild.

SaintsWeb is where it's at, yo!* * mods: I am still good for my trip to Fiver Mountain, aren't I?

Lawro and all of his ilk do my head in. The weekly predictions from Lawro are bad enough, but let that f**ker anywhere near an England game and you can hear the bitterness in his depressed Preston accident. "England are poor", etc, etc. What you (and Townsend et al) really meant to say was:- "I wished I'd played for England but bottled it because I didn't think I was good enough".

Not our fault that your family was feckless in bringing baby KRG to this world

Along with the extradition treaty and the whole getting into bed with neocons thing, more evidence that the UK is a de facto client state of the US? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/20/us-uk-secret-deal-surveillance-personal-data The UK government agreed that all its citizens were fair game for US surveillance. Funny. Don't remember voting for that. Blair and co have a lot to answer for.

We're taking the kids with us, although the eldest is going to be staying in a tent with her mates. Main reason we went for the camper was because it acts as a big lock-box during the day. Less stuff to carry about, etc.

I visited the Ugly today. WTF is going on over there? Boris done the offs, loads of accusations of multi-posting and all that. Fill us all in please, Turks.* * Note - not the filling in you intended for Highfield Scouts

Ah boll*cks. And there was me hoping for Maiden They'll do.

We're hiring a six berth motorhome for a week. Party over at pap's.

I have never worked on the set of Blockbusters! I'm sure that subject image is just a clerical error and not something I snickered at earlier in the week when it was doing the rounds on Twitter.

Let's examine this in a different way. I was ripping someone for being completely sh!t at football, one would assume that I can probably play football, at least to a better standard than the person I'm ripping. Your riffs on my physical appearance can only really work if you can claim better.

You'll have to trawl not606 for that. Ramirez signed at the beginning of the 2012/2013 season. Barry began gracing us with his presence in November of that year.

Like when he talks about a girlfriend? Gotcha. Bob Holness is a highly respected TV presenter among those of a certain age, Bear. I'll not have you mocking him or calling him a name hypo doesn't like.

I think you'll be fine apart from the fact you won't really be able to hear either. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs made a big thing of people going to gigs only to record them with their mobile devices, but as far as I can tell, Karen O doesn't give a f**k if you're listening to One Direction at her concerts.

You used a word he didn't like.

Hypo is not going to pleased with you, Bear.

Let's see yours then, for basis of comparison. Otherwise I'll have to assume you're a sniping slaphead lashing out at the world because you can't afford a hair transplant or beanie cap.