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Adkins confirms Ramierz is back tomorrow following compassionate leave Southampton FC ‏@officialsaints Nigel Adkins says Gastón Ramírez will return to the Club tomorrow having been in Uruguay on compassionate leave since Sunday.

I was watching some clips of MLT's goals and noticed that in away games against Blackburn and Liverpool, their fans clapped him (His goals) I can only remember one goal at the Dell (Think it was Huckerby) where the home fans clapped (Myself included), or maybe it's because not many people score worldies against us. Not in favour of a pompey/henri type love in, but is it something thing that has gone from the game or just Saints fans.

Just as rallyboy predicted The hero's are villains again....well ****s actually http://fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=468875 And stolen from the main board

Absolutely spot on

Yes they put a formal offer, which amounted to something like 20p per share when they were trading at about 50p (Happy to be corrected) the deal also included a substantial finders fee for executives (Who unsurpringly recommended the offer be accepted) . The irony of course is that had they (The shareholders) known what was coming they would have snapped SISU's hand off.

Whatever the 20 page document that listed all of the conditions required to pass Chinny included (As reported by micha hall) included - we can only guess, but I would assume they would include some sort of legal guarantee of the footballers debt, which would kind of stuff Chanrai, but I guess it depends how nasty he wants to get. What if he has agreed to all of those conditions...... What if he walks into court next week waving a bit of paper to say he has passed.

Oh hamster you cad.....if it wasn't for the fact that joke has already been made about 900 times on here, I would have thought you made that up yourself. Has Rudi signed (And just don't get me going on Ali Dia - I couldn't take it)

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2012/12/05/breaking-coventry-city-given-21-days-to-pay-unpaid-rent-or-face-closure-92746-32370027/ Thanks Markus

You really do pick and choose the easy ones don't you. So clapham as an administrator ..... What do you think will happen at the court case..................

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/awford-we-can-turn-to-youth-1-4553227 Only 4 years to late and possibly an indication where the trust are with the pledges. At last

It was a good shout BTF and I might have missed it, but hadn't seen it mentioned until you bought it up. This seems to explain it really well and would certainly muck up the plans for developers, who would still have to tie up 3 million in cash for a long time, before sharing the profits with Chanrai. http://www.bevirs.co.uk/commercial/overage.htm

The Olympic Committee, show the way regarding Stadium sales. Not that different to what was being suggested n here yesterday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/20603585

http://www.sporcle.com/games/BicycleStipe/Southampton (Courtesy of thedelldays the other week) Missed a massive one, but got some obscure ones

Boar Hunting in Boliva.... http://www.quailhuntnc.com/Hog_Hunting.php

That's an intresting thought to throw into the mix and given it is being sold to a property developer, one (That if Wiki's summary is corrcet) that could make a great deal of sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-sale_overage

I think the article detailing which clubs had paid which amounts to agents, gives us a good clue as to what went wrong. We are apparently very difficult to deal (No real issues with that) and obviously not in favour of agents, or agent fees. We can argue as to whether that is right or wrong - But for now it seems that is the business model we are working to, which makes the "pool" of players a great deall smaller and why we will lose players mid negociaton, as their agents push them in other directions.

Fag Packet Maths Total debt was 59 million which included 18 million of secured debt with Chinny, leaving 41 million of unsecured. If pdt get fat pipes for 2.7 million then 15 million gets added to the unsecured debt, giving a total of 56 unsecured and Chinny with 26% of the unsecured debt. Which technically means he could do something, but these are just the figures that have been put out there (And change depending on which articles you read) but regardless, there is enough wriggle room to get chinny below 25%.

Clapham - What is your take on the court case and likely outcome

The other consideration is that Chinny is a bit wound up and wants to win at any cost. He has been very quiet these last few weeks..... Whats to say that he hasn't agreed to all the stipulations by the FA, (That will ultimately tie him in knots), so that he walks into court with a bit of paper saying he has passed the FAPPT....... That would change everything.

Same for me Frank, although it is not necessarily the complexity, it is just the logic of it all. Regardless of the fact it is the pdt, they do have a legal team and obvioulsy the full weight of the pkf resource, so we have to assume they do know what they are talking about and that there is a resonable chance of success. So following that through what they are ultimately asking for is; A judge to wipe away over 16 million pounds worth of debt from an individual who doesn't want to sell (At that price anyway) to a property developer who is looking to utilise the same land for redevelopment and profit and that just doesn't make any sense to me. If they were questioning the validity of the charge, that would be a completely different story (Although given micha halls articles, seemed to point out exactly when, where and how much chinny put in, so that I think they would struggle with that one) but ultimately the court will be asked to sanction something that will make one individual lose an incredible amount of money, so that another individual can make a profit. I just can't see the logic. Also if the pdt want to do things at market rate, what is to stop Chinny keeping the ground and renting to the pdt at "Fair market rate"? There are lots of examples of outside ground ownership renting back to the team, so would be fairly easy to do. Oh well, I am sure there will be some entertainment value in whatever happens.

Of course the PST (or its developer partner) won't pay over the odds for a parcel of land worth at the very very most £3m. That's a factor the judge will be presented with - "value this land higher than its uppermost market worth and the club will fold, a club that incidentally is being taken over by its own community." Portpin are having a valuation done at the moment and they have chosen a reputable valuer to carry out the work. Given the range of valuations thus far (between £0 and £2.5m) this company will have its reputation on the line if it suddenly produces a rogue high figure. The PST bid has 5 valuations below the offer being made, has a top legal team, has PKF's top legal barristers - experts on the subject and has a community project on the line - the sort of project judges have precedent in favouring. Portpin have 1 valuation (still to be known but which has that firm's reputation to uphold) a scribbled self valuation £7m crossed out and replaced with £10m and possibly hearsay that SAF would have paid their £1.2m a year rent. In a football context I'd say the PST is 4-0 up and playing well with 10 mins to play Seems we have it all wrong - Sounds like it is just a box ticking exercise, probably won't even need the second day.

There is a meeting of the share conversion team on Tuesday and some of these issues are under discussion. We are in the process of calling everyone who has pledged to either thank them (if they have already converted) or get a feel for if and when they are going to convert. We feel this 'personal' touch is the best way to persuade rather than constant e-mail badgering, which is a blunt instrument to get people to act. So they have put together a "Share conversion team" - I wonder why the would need that :scared: As for settling out of court - Shouldn't be a problem - They just need 17 million quid and Chinny will walk away without a fuss. Seriously though, that all sounds a little desperate from the PDT. I would assume that the lions share of any legal bills have already been incurred. The leg work will have already been done, the two days n court will be a samll percentage of the total costs. I suggest a few of them take a spare pair of boxers with them on the 14th. My prediction is that it will be adjourned or delayed in someway. The pdt will position it as trust or bust and we know that nobody wants to take the sole responsibility for that sort of action.

A feel slightly soiled. I had to go to gunwharf this morning. But it wasn't completely without laughs. I was stood outside Addidas and two young chavs were eying the bargains in the window display, at which point one turns to the other and says "But they will be fakes at those prices :scared: portseas finest

Woeful. Worst performance I have seen for a long long time. Big fan of Adkins - But he fooked up today - Settled for a non embarrassing scoreline, when it was patently obvious the shape, the system, the players weren't working. I am still confused as to why he didn't do anything. Very disapointing and the Liverpool fans that steamed our lot - Well done you managed to beat up the only Liverpool fan that travelled with us - ***ts

I think Wednesday was more Samantha Saint, than Sammy Saint