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Better to remain silent than to remove any doubt. 1,400 years eh? blink of eye. "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24) "Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14) "If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die (Deuteronomy 22:22)

For the first time more voters now support 'remain' than leave. https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-27/u-k-regrets-brexit-for-first-time-since-referendum-poll-says Its going to be an interesting election.

Thats the trouble with getting your 'facts' from Facebook. You make an arse of yourself. https://www.facebook.com/YassminAbdelMagied/posts/798723856948352 Maybe read this instead. http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/koran-carla-power/

Corbyn is the most principled and honest of all the party leaders. As Shurlock says, its just a pity he believes in the wrong things. He's an individual, free thinker. Great as an MP, useless a a leader who needs to bind a disparate party together and find the zeitgeist of the electorate.

There is little point looking for answers or formed views from Sour Mash. He's stuck at wishing Britain still looked like it did in the 1950s. He has no solution or ideas for policy, just a bleat about the way things are presently repeated on a loop.

It still amazes me how people cannot know the difference between an opinion piece - someone hired to be thought provoking in a single article, and the overall editorial line of a paper. What the Guardian is doing is what all papers should do, challenging its readers to think , not spoon feeding them reflections of what they already think. The Mail used to do it but has largely stopped. Yes Monbiot is clever but a bit of a left wing dreamer. So what?

No its not. No they aren't Amortised over 35 years its about £3bn pa. Personally I think its probably worth it but understand the arguments that it isnt.

If I was Eisner I'd just create 'A' and 'B' shares. A shares control the lion's share of the voting rights and get the dividends. The B shares get you a free scarf and the right to call yourself an owner.

I didnt say he did, simply that he has more credibility than Farage.

Maybe you should read what people actually said rather than your partial memory from months ago of Express reports of what they said. It would give you a different and more informed view of the world.

Its not arrogance though, its the unvarnished view of the other party in the Brexit negotiations. You'll get more truth by listening to both him and May than from the right wing media or from May alone. In any event he's not even a Eurocrat - he is an elected EU politician. He has the same legitimacy but much more credibility than Farage.

This opinion piece by Guy Verhofstadt should be compulsory reading for all Brexiteers. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/22/dont-believe-theresa-may-election-wont-change-brexit "The theory espoused by some, that May is calling a general election in order to secure a better deal with the EU, is nonsensical. We can only conclude that many British politicians and the media still don’t fathom how article 50 will work. As with the referendum, which many European leaders saw as a Tory cat fight that got out of control, I have little doubt many on the continent see this election as again motivated by the internal machinations of the Tory party. What has been billed as a “Brexit election” is an attempted power grab by the Tories, who wish to take advantage of a Labour party in seeming disarray to secure another five years of power before the reality of Brexit bites. Will the election of more Tory MPs give May a greater chance of securing a better Brexit deal? For those sitting around the table in Brussels, this is an irrelevance. British officials will represent the people of the UK in the negotiations, regardless of the number of Tory MPs. Yes, many in Europe deeply regret the UK’s decision to leave the European Union. We were, and would have been, stronger working together to tackle climate change, shape globalisation and lead the fight for liberal democracy on our continent and beyond. But the British people should not be misled by the hysterical rightwing British press – there never has been and never will be a campaign or secret plot by EU leaders to keep Britain in the EU. The government has decided to trigger article 50 of the Lisbon treaty and the letter May sent to invoke this procedure set out the government’s negotiating position: Britain will be leaving the customs union. As a result, European leaders are preparing for customs controls to be introduced from Brexit day in March 2019. Britain will be leaving the European single market that Mrs Thatcher pushed for, we have been informed. Leaving this single market has logical consequences: an end to the free movement of people, goods and services between the United Kingdom and the European Union. I hope we can forge a close security partnership, as international terrorism knows no borders, but as May has ruled out any European court of justice oversight of the UK, we must act on the assumption the UK does not wish to participate in EU justice and home affairs instruments. Come the summer of 2019, unless the government requests transitional arrangements to the contrary and these requests are agreed by all EU countries, UK citizens will have no more of a right to holiday, travel and study in EU countries than tourists from Moscow or students from Mumbai. Leaving the European Union means the EU agencies based in the UK will be relocated. I expect this will be approved by EU leaders as soon as June, if not before. Contrary to the obscure claims by government officials, the European Union’s “crown jewels” of the European Banking Authority and the European Medicines Agency will not remain in a post-Brexit Britain, paid for by EU countries. This is not, as the Daily Express has decried, a “punishment”. This is another logical consequence of Theresa May’s article 50 letter. This decision will not be up for negotiation. I hope this election will lead to an honest debate about the bitter realities of Brexit. Perhaps then the fog of surrealism that has engulfed UK ministers will clear and we can have a serious discussion about our future relationship, which I hope will be a close one."

Death for coveting your neighbour's ox seems a bit harsh, unless you're a kipper of course. Most (all?) religions contradict themselves repeatedly when you compare one passage with another. That leaves the room for some to cherry pick when what they should do is put the whole lot in the bin.

Gets even more bizarre in this Scottish Daily Herald interview "She says she finds gorillas attractive – they make her “hormones go crazy”, she claims." http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15240329.Ukip__39_s_new_Scots_candidate_backs_guillotines__castration_and_flogging_____and_you_should_hear_her_views_on_gorillas/

tbf the idea of a retail park stadium 15 miles outside the city would make me think twice too.

This election is going to be harder to call than most others before it. There are far more dimensions to it than traditional party politics - Brexit, Scottish independence / breakup of UK etc. A lot of voters will be feeling conflicted. I think the Tories will win and win well, but there will be some bigger surprises than usual on the night imo. Edit. Big range in the polls published today. Tory lead over Labour ranges from a massive 25% to a catchable 11%.

Beautiful place. The north-east - the Costa Smerelda (Emerald Coast) is fantastic but expensive.

Feel free to actually look up the manifesto pledges

If the economy was so strong there was no reason for them to not fulfil another manifesto pledge - to cut the UKs debt pile. How did that turn out? Debt doubled irrc.,,

Aah Tory manifesto promises. Set in stone they are. Take em to the bank you could. I liked that 2010 one where they promised to reduce immigration to tens of thousands, managed by that nice slip of a girl Theresa May. Honest eyes she had

Exactly it's not about numbers. It's like tax - people don't really care if it's at zero or 90% as long as the British government have control over the rates. Personally I wouldn't mind waiting 15 years for a heart op as long as I know the government have the power to cut the wait if they wanted to.

Looks like that nice Mr Farage agrees with me about May's tactics Mr Farage told the Standard: “It is a total deception. On the one hand we have the Daily Mail saying she is going to end free movement and sound more Ukip than Ukip. On the other hand, we have clear concessions being made. I even heard David Davis saying free movement could last years. It is all a massive con.” http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/general-election-2017-tories-move-away-from-pledge-to-slash-immigration-a3518991.html

It doesn't, its sophistry. As Home Secretary May presided over the biggest rise in immigration in recent history, the majority from non EU countries which she had direct control over but did nothing.

We've got an extension to 2022 so far. Any advance on that? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39498647

....and we will use that control to independently agree to continue free movement, but only for an interim period you understand. Three years tops, or maybe five, no more than 10. Long grass?