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What a day!! Couldn't get bbc1 to work on the satellite so been listening to 5live and had sky sports news on. MLT overjoyed on there. 7 years. We're back where we belong. I honestly cant believe it!! Thank you Nigel, Nicola, the team and most off Markus. I know you are looking down on us and smiling. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. WE'RE PREMIER LEAGUE!

And now a badly b@stardised version of "If" If you can keep the faith when all about you Are losing it and blame the ref; If you can trust Saints when all men doubt them, Those watching Sky for Le God and Jeff; If you can wait the 90 and not be tired by waiting, Or, being lied to, by hearsay in the stand, Or, being hated, don't give skates a thought, They don't look good, or talk wise; If you can dream the 5 year plan faster; If you can think – that now’s our time; If you can meet with triumph and disaster And draw under them a blue line; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by those on Saints Web – the fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to broken, Play third tier at Hartlepool; If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on West Ham – Hoping for loss, They lose, you hope but Foxes roll over Forget about them, don’t give a toss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To wait all week till Saturday, And when we have that 1 goal lead Will on the lads to just "Hold on"; If you can talk with crowds at half time, Or watch the kings – in Red and White; If you know Sky Blue cannot hurt you; If all men count points, that may well be; If you can fill the ninety minutes With 5000 seconds' worth of sound - Ours is the Prem and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Saint my son! (And now I really should do some work)

2 hours ahead here as well. Annoyingly with a 1720 kick off I will only get 20 mins before I have to go on watch. Hopefully be a few up by then!! My oppo in the engine room is a 'boro fan so tonight in the bar could be interesting depending on the result. Hope all thsoe going have a great time and do us proud. From across the seas - C'MON SAINTS!

COYR!!! Jst about to take off from Heathrow in the worst bit of flight/match scheduling ever! 12 hours until I have even a remote chance of finding out the result!

A good read. Was wondering who this was reffering to though.... "On the other hand, the notes to the accounts reveal that there are contingent liabilities of £7.5 million: (b) up to £4 million to a former creditor if the club is promoted to the Premier League before 2015/16."

Five Brighton and Hove Albion footballers and an AFC Bournemouth player have been arrested on suspicion of sexually assaulting a woman. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-16631651

Well we had a fantastic time in Tokyo. The place really is quite amazing. Only there for 3 days but we packed so much in. Even managed to get to the Sumo which really is quite an experience - Possibly the most Japanese thing we could have done! Tried all sorts of different foods, shown around a Samurai sword showroom (Tokyo Sword), Visited the Imperial Palace garderns, went to Senso Ji, had an Asahi in the Asahi building overlooking the city, went to Shibuya snag Kareoke and much more. I was surprised by some things. I expected English to be more widely spoken (maybe as I've been out here in HK and Macau for the last month where it is) and that free Wi-Fi would be more readily available as it is in HK and Macau. Really recommend going. Though it was bloody cold!! If you get the chance -GO!

Morning all, I missed the initial reports as I was without internet in Tokyo, but one thing I would say is that most of the media reports can be ignored as they are factually incorrect. Lots of them can only be described as cr@p. But now to some of the comments above. The bridge team would have been able to navigate without electronic systems. They should have been fixing on the paper chart using either radar or visual fixes at this range off the coast. However if it was a paperless ship they would not have had this. However they would have been able to manually fix on their ECDIS (Electronic chart system) which should have been supplied by their UPS. This is not the case. They merely have to have an approved SMS (Fleet Regs). They more than likely work on a system of Fleet Regs which have evolved from the ones they had before being taken over from Carnival. Princess Cruises used to operate the same SMS as P&O Cruises but since they seperated and P&O and Cunard became Carnival UK, Princess now operate a different SMS (all be it with many similarities - they have simply gone a different route with some things.) The SMS has to meet minimum standards which are inspected during the company and ships ISM audits by the flag state. True in a small boat. However an enclosed Bridge such as that of the Concordia would not have enabled the GPS reciever to gain a signal. It would be much easier to use visual fixing and radar range and bearings in the event of GPS failure at this range from the coast. This is being reported in some media sources. However I don't believe this to be true. The Captain may have planned a sail past of the island which apparently is something that has been done before by this ship in this location. "Sail by's" are not un-common. It is being reported by some media sources that he left the ship early and in others that he was the last to leave the vessel. I would be inclined to believe the latter. With regards to not being a very good Captain it should be mentioned that when it was realised the damage was fatal he did his best to manouevre the vessel as close to the land as he could in attempt to beach it and ensure that it did not completely submerge. This would be the recommended action in this event. Now to the incident itself. It is going to be impossible to say why this incident has happened until the official reports come out. This could take quite some time. Once the investigators and company have been able to replay the VDR/VER (or Blackbox as the media insist on calling it) they will be able to see exactly what happened. The VDR takes a feed from the radar, GPS, Gyro etc as well as a feed from microphones located all over the bridge. These microphones, through the software on the computer playback system, can even determine the way someone on the bridge is facing. It is being reported that the ship was miles of course. This is not that unusual and could have been down to a variety of reasons - traffic being one. The Captain in the interview on the Telegraph website (link posted by Dubai Phil) states that the rocks weren't charted. It would be interesting to know if the echo sounder was picking up the bottom at this point. Additionally if the rocks were not charted it would be interested to know if the charts were updated to the most recent updates along with the sounding depths. Reports are stating that the crew were disorganised and were getting in liferafts before passengers. This could be down to the fact that the boat and raft crew must enter and prepare the LSA before passengers can board it. However an interview on BBC breakfast from a crew member pointed out that the rafts were for crew and boats for passengers. Finally (as this is quite a long post now), it should be remembered that over 4000 people were successfully evacuated from the ship. This proves that the evacuation plan did in fact work in what was very difficult circumstances. It is tragic that some lifes have been lost but we should be thankful that so many people were successfully evacuated.

Will comment fully later as just boarding a flight in Tokyo. When a ship has an exchange of passengers or crew of more than a certain %age (can't remember off the top of my head) she must have a complete muster/drill within 24 hours of departure of that port. With regards to the GPS being knocked out even with a power failure bridge and emergency equipment should automatically be backed up by the Un-interrupted power supply (UPS) which is basically a supply of batteries until the Emergency Generator starts. This should cause no interruption to occur to navigational equipment. SHOULD being the optimum word here. Anyway my flight is being called

Sorry for your loss mate. Have they ever had a pet that has died? Mate of mine found it so much easier to explain to his youngest about the death of a family member after a pet had died than he had to his eldest previously. Random as it sounds he also used a sesame street video a teacher friend lent him which dealt with death quite well. You can probably find it on YouTube. Hope this is of some use,

Thanks for all the pointers. We fly out from HK tomorrow. The mrs has been reading up and decided that amongst other thing that she wants to go and see sumo wrestling. Do you know If this is still a common sport in Tokyo is it rarer and harder to find these days? Really looking forward to it. Only been to Japan once and that was on a ship so didn't really see much of it.

Think it's called the Tokyu Inn though not got it to hand at the mo. Looking to do the usual tourist things like the imperial palace gardens etc. Obviously we're not there for long so want to try and work out what's best to do in a short space of time - what is essential to do! I've just downloaded a guide book so will be working my way though that later on but any pointers/tips would be appreciated.

With the sheer excitement at the prospect of Lee signing I've decidd to go to Tokyo (Well Me and Mrs OOO are in Hong Kong/Macau for a month so we've decided to go to Tokyo for 4 days as we got a good deal on it) Anyway I was wondering if anyone had been there before and if they had any recommendations or advice on the place? Cheers OOO

When my old x-bow went t!ts I got a new one with kinnect. To be honest the only thing I use it for after the initial go on it is for the voice command bit which doesn't always work. It's probably quite good if you have kids or if you can get some sort of team based thing for if you have friends or family round but I wouldn't bother. The mrs was on about getting some sort of dance based game for it so I think there is equivalent to the PS3 one you mention.

We seem to play Eastleigh every pre-season in a friendly but I was wondering if we have any official link up with them or any other club? I seem to vaguely recall 10 years ago (maybe more) that we announced a link up with a Korean or Chinese side. Anyone else remember this or did I imagine this? On another note could you see us having a link up in the future as part of the 5 year plan (or another plan) -perhaps for commercial reasons - and if so where would you like to see us form such a link? (this thread may have been inspired by FM)

Evening chaps. Finally got 5live sports extra to work. Had Chelski on the TV in Chinese until I get it to work. COYR

One I'd be very happy with us signing. Mrs OOO's family are season ticket holders at Udders and all rate him highly. Ideal replacement for Kelv.

I've just arrived in Hong Kong - sat in the airport waiting for a ferry across to Macau. Going to mainly be in Macau for a month but also Hong Kong. Was wondering if you had any top tips for me while I'm out here - to do, see etc? Cheers OOO

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Bring on Scteve

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Who from on here took the flare then?

Doesn't work outside the UK Try http://www.viewtvabroad.com/ Or http://www.my-expat-network.co.uk/ You have to pay a fiver a month but worth it.