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Why would you think mentioning Andronikou's talk of a european appeal would rile me? Pompey supporters think he's a complete **** who's only there to advance Chainrai's claim to grab as much as he can. Which is what makes me laugh with you silly tarts going on about the "cheats" at Fratton, because although you keep aiming it at the club the people who are doing what you're complaining about are Andronikou and Chainrai (and his bum boy Kushnir), NOT the club itself or the fans. But your bitterness over the media's constant praise of our support and our winning a trophy is so apparent on this thread it's laughable. By the way, if any of you sanctimonious old women were really offended by players bringing the game into disrepute can I ask why you haven't contacted the FA/ FL about a certain glassing incident in your faultless little town last weekend? Give it up girls, whatever the outcome for PFC you're making yourselves look like a bunch of screaming, hysterical queens. PS: Whoever it was asked, the garden leave finished 7 months ago. I'm typing this on a work laptop so if Baj or Granty wanted to compare the ISP with posts I made pre - March please feel free

**** me you ****s are pathetic

The "debt" includes Chainrai's money (covering cash no-one ever actually saw the club receive) £30m odd to Gaydamak for the land around the stadium that's not worth anywhere near that and money to Fahim and Faraj for God knows what. There's absolutely no way the real amount of debt ever reached that level. And why would I "gloat" about Chainrai taking over my club? The guy is scum. The reason he hasn't taken over yet is because the FL aren't happy with him as a prospective owner and are doing their damndest to prevent him. That's why Andronikou (who has done his absolute best to stop any other interested party - and there have been others besides Lever) get anywhere near getting enough info to even contemplate making a bid. And if you think that's far fetched read what the Swindon fans say about him and their experience under his "stewardship." Also, if you think he's going to pour money in to PFC to try and reach the PL you're a bigger bunch of 'tards than even I thought you were

I'd want Gold and Sullivan nowhere near Pompey. Ask Brum fans what they think of them. The idea that they came in to "save" West Ham is laughable. They're only there because they saw an opportunity to try and move WHU to the Olympic Stadium and make a fortune in developing Upton Park. That's why he's always so vocal when there's any talk of another club like Spurs being interested in the Olympic Stadium. On the subject of Pompey's debt you lot take it up or down depending on what suits your agenda. if it's to show how we "cheated" or why no-one will want us it's up to the £130m figure, if it's talk about how we "cheated" the courts or taxman it's that Andronikou inflated that figure and the debt's nowhere near that figure really. Make your minds up.

Sorry to hear your news Daren Sincere condolences and RIP Mrs W

No, but seeing as it was carried out IN SOUTHAMPTON after they watched a football match on TV it's a fair assumption he was a Saints fan, wouldn't you say?. I remember being told that everyone who participated in the mini riot that happened after our game against you was a Pompey fan. Funny how you lot constantly move the goalposts when it suits. I'm not saying The attack was carried out IN SOUTHAMPTON after they watched the game on TV. If you're going to pick holes in things etc etc etc you ****tard By the way, talking of racists, how's Stuey these days? Still banging on about "ragheads" on this very forum without a word of protest from you lot?

Racist attack by a football fan in Southampton. You reckon he wasn't a Saints fan too? Still waiting for the quote showing me trumpeting Pompey's new dawn as well. Or maybe I never said anything of the sort? PMSL

What new dawn was I trumpeting a few weeks ago? Maybe you could post the quote. I'd be interested to read it seeing as I never said any such thing. Perhaps you've confused me with someone else (as happens time and time and time and time again on here). By the way, if we want to talk about racism at our respective clubs let's talk about an overt examples from a couple of years ago http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/hampshire/5391602.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/hampshire/7906444.stm

1. You want the club to go out of business because it's run by charlatans? Funny that, we want the charlatans out of our club. But how would the club going out of business affect the likes of Chainrai? Your comment is dumb. 2. I'm not asking you to stop being "horrible" about Pompey, I'm asking you lot to stop trying to mask your ridiculous 700 page thread about Pompey as concern over how we've cheated hospitals etc when you don't care a flying **** about that, all you want is Pompey to be punished/ cease to exist because we're above you and it's put your delicate little noses out of joint. By all means have a pop at our predicament but stop trying to use a moral standpoint to do it. See my post above. I'm not moaning at you for having a go at Pompey, I just have to laugh at how pathetic your supposed moral standpoint over the whole thing is when we all know that's just a convenient excuse for you lot. If Pompey were still in a league below you do you really think this thread would have even got into double figures? You're a pathetic bunch of whining schoolgirls and whilst I genuinely didn't want to see you disappear last year, I now hope that the situation after Liebherr's unfortunate death sees you end up in the hands of a bunch of crooks the like of which have run Pompey into the ground and that your club gets wound up.

What a whining, hysterical bunch of little girls you lot are. Nearly 700 pages of sanctimonious hand wringing, pathetically trying to dress your hatred of Pompey up as concern for charities and schools. Give up, you sound truly, truly pathetic

Steve Grant, please PM me on Pompey Online.

Nick Nack, I'm not sure how many times I've explained this to you but please try and understand once and for all. Instead of banging on about how we've been in admin twice, read and understand that the first time we went into admin was because Martin Gregory ****ed up the family business he took over from his father and loaded millions in loans onto the football club to keep Blue Star garages going. Quite how that is the fault of the club or something the fans should be ashamed of is beyond me. Perhaps you could explain it for me you addled old **** PMSL. Oh yeah, there's a massive feelgood factor around Pompey fans at the moment. WAC So, the "vast majority of our fans" are loving that we got away with it, yet every Pompey fan you know personally is not boating or happy right now. Anyone else see the problem with these comments. The "majority" that you don't know you believe are loving it yet the ones you do know aren't. Mmm, nice logic there FC Remind me, weren't you the Championship club who spunked the biggest amount on transfers the season before you went into admin in a mad gamble to get promoted. Pots and kettles. Conveniently forgotten on here. Spending money you didn't have. Cheats etc etc etc etc etc You live in LONDON? Oh my God, how cosmopolitan. And you know LONDON people. Gosh, I'm in awe. I work in London. I work for a very large company with all sorts of football fans. None of the ones I've spoken to think we're cheats. They look at us the same way as Leeds - as a club who "chased the dream". Seeing as most of the clubs they support are in huge debt too they acknowledge it could happen to any of them. Keep believing that everyone thinks we're "cheats" though and one day you may even convince yourself

What an absolute load of ******. It was terrible that a small minority of Pompey fans didn't respect the minutes silence but it WAS a small minority. I was in the away end that night and I wasn't booing/ chanting. There was certainly some more noise made as Pompey fan(myself included) told those making the noise to be quiet but to say the whole away end was doing it is laughable. I know quite a few Pompey fans who didn't know whether to tell the idiots to shut up or not for fear of contributing to the noise during the minutes silence. If you're saying it was the whole away end I can't help but think you weren't there and are another Daily Mail - like reader, complaining about things when you haven't even experienced them first hand.

Crabby, either you're a very immature young man who can't read properly or you're a slimey little pr1ck trying to score points over Pompey fans from the death of Liebherr. Which one is it? I'm glad you posted a link to the Pompey board you mentioned so everyone can take a look. I've already said I don't agree with what they posted and think they're ****s for doing so. But anyone who takes a look will see that there are a grand total of THREE Pompey fans who posted anything offensive. But you think that makes the majority of us pr!cks. I've spoken to Bill who runs POL and he's confirmed that no posts were removed from that site and here's a link so anyone can take a look and see just what outraged Crabby so much. Feel free to let me know where you can see posts that have been removed. http://www.pompeyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58775 Crabby, you've shown your true colours. You're a lying little scumbag who used the death of Saints owner to try and score moral points. I'm not sticking up for anyone. I've seen too much death in my life to stick up for morons who think it's funny that someone died. My point was that an element of your fans would have been no different if the situation had been reversed and cited the old B.anter board as an example of your fans posting offensive crap. As I said to Crabby above, if you actually read the posts there are only three Pompey posters posting anything offensive. That's not to excuse them but at least put it into perspective. It seems to me that a lot of Saints fans are acting like the Daily Mail readers who phoned the BBC to complain about Russel Bran and Jonathan Ross without actually seeing or hearing what they were complaining about. The vast majority of posts on most Pompey board were genuinely respectful and supportive. If you want to take the posts of three people as representative of Pompey fans as a whole then that's your choice

There were sightings earlier today of someone wearing a hard hat and driving a JCB south on the M1. I'm saying nothing. No, like the other poster said, I think he actually has a stake in the consortium that's taken over Leicester so can't see him coming back. But with Mad mandy anything's possible No, he didn't sell to Venables. That was Martin Gregory. All our problems started after Jim became ill and Martin took over. I don't even remember us having a particularly close relationship to QPR. Remind me of what you're referring to here. He appointed John Gregory as manager and after that Jim Smith and both had worked under him at QPR but there's nothing else I can really remember. There were no posts removed from POL, all still there. I repeat, stop trying to make an issue out of something that doesn't exist. As for your "bunch of goons" comment it's pathetic. Pompey have fans like any other club, Saints included. Some good, some bad. If you think you don't have your own goons remind me which club has twice had sets of fans jailed for football violence, put an opposing fan into a coma by beating them with a baseball bat and seen reports of trouble after almost every home game - clue: it isn't Pompey. Look chaps, I'm not trying to score cheap points here, especially at what I understand is a sad time for you but comments like these by SaintJay sound like a 14 year old (I don't know, maybe he is but his name suggests he's in his 30's). I refer you back once again to the B.anter board that one of your lot set up when the old Banter board closed down and the type of comments that were posted on there. You've got fans who are capable of posting stuff just as bad as the Pompey fans have done in this instance and if you think they wouldn't do it if the situation was reversed you're in denial.

No comments have been removed or replaced from POL, largely because there were none that deserved to be removed or replaced. The posts on the other board are also still there. Please don't try and make out that what Pompey fans posted was worse than it was. The great majority showed respect for his death. Some expressed an opinion that his death meant no more to them than any stranger dying which is their opinion and fair comment.

Couple of points here. 1. Sad that Liebherr's died, especially at that age. No age at all really. 2. Can understand you getting upset at what some Pompey fans wrote on a few boards (although not POL, can't see what would cause a real problem there). However, if you think Saints fans wouldn't have done the same if the roles had been reversed, you're mistaken. Remember the B.anter board that someone set up and the stuff that got posted on there. The board that had the worst comments about Liebherr is pretty much the equivalent of B.anter so whilst I can't tell you to ignore it, at least put it into context. There are fans at every club who'll say or post something to get a reaction and Saints are no different. 3. Ref the land Gaydamak owns and people not being able to get into the ground. Did any of you who went to the last few games at Fratton ever have to cross that car park to get into the ground? Exactly. It's not a problem. 4. On the subject of Jim Gregory, are you confusing him with his son Martin? Jim was a very good businessman but our problems started when he became ill and his Martin took over. Martin ****ed up the Blue Star business to such an extent that it was on the verge of going under. To keep it going, he took out a number of loans secured against PFC and it was this that caused us to go into admin and nearly out of existence before Mandaric bought us. Once again PFC suffered because of the actions of an individual, not through any fault of the clubs or the fans. That was the Pompey posters point about Liebherr's family taking over as there are paralells with what happened to us with the Gregory's. Not saying the same will happen but the circumstances are similar

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When we had our hearing regarding liquidation a professional, trained court registrar decided we hadn't been trading insolvently. However, I understand that a number of football fans on a Southampton message board believe she was wrong in taking this decision so I bow to your lots superior knowledge in these matters instead of someone who has spent years in the courts and arbitrated on many similar situations.

You're wasting your breath mate. It's why I've all but given up posting on here. The ridiculous posturing about cheats etc is so laughable. The hypocrisy displayed on here is staggering. I remember when Mandaric and then gaydamak were bankrolling us the board was full of "we wouldn't want a sugar daddy" quotes and now all we hear is how rich Marcus is. We apparently "bought" our way out of teh championship when other teams couldn't compete because of the collapse of ITV digital, but apparently it's Ok for them to spunk cash left right and centre on the biggest transfer budget and wage bill in their division. Talk about spending what you haven't got. But apparently that's alright for them because good old Marcus can afford it. It will be nice to see what their wages to turnover ratio is and see how that's justified on here. I hear they're changing the name of the site to barrack room lawyer.com too

Bleating, whining, talk of "dark forces at work", absurd conspiracy theories, "expert" views being wrong time and time and time again. Welcome to the crazy world of Saints Web Not saying HMRC won't challenge or even that we're out of the woods yet but let's not forget' amidst all your talk about that **** Andronikou massaging figures that the taxman massaged them himself up to the figure he's claiming and the figure includes payments for image rights which although a loophole weren't illegal when Pompey paid them, as many other clubs do. Given that the ex FA head of integrity is happy with the CVA outcome I'll trust his judgement rather than a few divs on a rivals fans site

Professional bodies, registrars, judges etc not behaving in the way a group of completely unbiased mongs on an internet forum expected. If you were outsiders which of those groups would you expect to be best able to appraise the situation and act appropriately? This whole thread exists because you're bitter about Pompey being above you in the league and you can't take it. Add in the fact that we actullly achieved something in our time in the top flight and it just rubs salt in your wounds. It also galls you that the Pompey fans are consistently recognised by the media for their support when you might get the odd mention once a year for having decent gates in Lg 1. There used to be lots of talk about Pompey buying their way into the PL and achhieving success through a sugar daddy. None of you girls seem to be opposed to that sort of success for yourselves (assuming Liebherr's support isn't starting to dry up as a few of you seem to think). Our fans are universally recognised as better than yours, we reached two cup finals and won a trophy and you hate it. get over it and you'll feel better

Jesus Christ. Are you obsessed gimps still going on with this? PMSL I see Nick Nack's still banging on about Dave Richards introducing Fahim to PFC when it's been explained God knows how many times that he didn't and just happened to be at the same game (the PL Chairman at the Champs League final when an English club were playing - why on earth would he be there? Must be a conspiracy). In fact despite being the most up your own arses group of football fans I've ever seen, constantly banging on about how "this forum got it right all along" you've thrown (and continue to throw) so many theories around between you that a couple of them had to hit the mark. Possibly funniest of all, you now no longer seem to be sure yourselves who you're aiming at. In fact, you seem to be arriving at a consensus that Pompey fans arrived at months ago - that Chainrai and Andronikou are doing all they can to weasel away as much cash from the club as they can. Which means, that PFC aren't the "cheats" but are the ones being cheated. And, reading the posts on here, and possibly without you gormless ****ing imbeciles realising it, you believe PFC have been wronged. Give up girls. Move on FFS

To be fair Granty, the questions have been asked but the guys decided to be polite and not raise too many issues with his answers as they thought it would be best to keep the dialogue going rather than antagonise him. But you can only go so far and that's the stage we've reached now. And that's weird isn't it? Which is what we've been saying on POL all along. Weird that apart from one Sunday Times article no-one's mentioned Andronikou's dodgy past, or challenged his independent status. I also think it's very odd that no-one in the press is mentioning that almost 50% of Pompey's "debts" are to current or former owners including Fahim and Faraj. Or got an estate agent to independently value the land around Fratton that Gaydamak is apparently owed £30m+ for! FFS fella, Pompey fans asked the PL to investigate this guys role in the club last year. And what did they do? Nothing. BBC are allegedly in possession of a memo from Chainrai instructing PFC officials that they now answer to Azougy. Dated Sep/ Oct last year! That's way before he "took over" from Faraj. I'm wondering why they're sitting on it. Because that document would prove that the whole thing was a planned scam from start to finish by Chainrai and that PFC have been the victim of a con trick that has cost us millions.

Welcome back to planet Earth, Buck Rogers