Antrimsaint

Such an easy way out. Wait and see!!! I wanted benefits from day 1 if we were forced into this. I don’t see it. Not after 6 months, when then? No its a cluster and the brexit diehards are so obstinate they cannot back down. simple question is it going well or not? Is it going well for farmers, fishermen etc? What are we waiting to see? Is it 5,10,50 years for the benefits?

You make a fair point. Noted

Lol true. 😆👏

They are now our competitors. It’s like we are Taiwan off the coast of China. What did they think would happen. we will be their bitch. They can whinge all they like but we voted for it. It’s what we wanted. Britain is now Europe’s gimp. How tragic.

Not anymore mate, changing rapidly(Brexit) I have always been strongly republican, in the true sense, not Irish sense, but have loved all the nations equally. I truly want the end of the union for a more decentralised union of equal nations. There is a resentment of London as the powerbroker but a s a collection of nations the diversity is its strength. There is a strong unionist tradition in Scotland as well but that’s a divisive trope. Identity is a strange mutating creature but No matter how much we love our own little patch of grass does not mean we need to denigrate our closet and fondest neighbours. I would much rather all our nations win than Slovakia, Hungary or Poland. Is that weird? I don’t get tramps like Muckie wanting Wales to go home ASAP. Just weird?

As a Norn Iron Ive tried to explain before. Its sibling rivalry. Its always going to be there. England is big brother. Its as simple as that and like that relationship it is love/hate. we all want to beat England so badly it hurts, more than any other team and, especially rugby/football the modern form of war. It actually does feel like hate when the adrenaline is flowing. I celebrated like a loon when Healy scored and we beat England. However, when England play anyone else the vast majority of us little brothers are with England. They are after all our Big brother, rugby excluded of course I hate those cxxxx. Lol Christ I wore an England top as a kid. How may English folks wore a Norn Iron top? There is more love there than you think. Don’t let the angry mob let you think there isn’t.

Rather than nitpicking every word, why don’t you respond with all the Brexit benefits we have had so far

Im still waiting for one of the benefits. To be fair the Europeans have some cracking shows of late. Lupin is fantastic lol.

Takes one ☝️

Its a metaphor for being in the gang than being outside looking in.

Grim, me old china

Good grief, no need to try and catch me out. Was just interested in an honest perspective and acknowledgement that what we are seeing, in general, is a pattern of decline. I personally think the UK was already in that period but believe Brexit has sped that process up. The whole post refers to stories that show this chipping away at Britains clout and its diminishment globally. you can defend Brexit, thats fine but I have tried to see the upside and I can’t, and I don’t get it. Why vote to be poorer, have less influence, less protections etc. That view may also be my bias but no one up to now has given me the wins in comparison to our losses. Can you see that? Again, I don’t like being this confused so just trying to gain understanding

Seriously Tlydsley and McCoist easily best commentary team for me, better than anything the BBC can throw. ITV definitely the best fir me this year. very good on this Dutch/North Macedonia game too

As I said, not my area of expertise so will bow to your knowledge. I assumed within the EU uk was safe from cheaper lower quality Chinese imports of steel and could use EU clout as a buffer but alone in a sea of sharks can now be picked off by the world inc EU. I knew steel was already in the mire but I think, the argument could be made that another chair (brexit)was kicked out from under it so hastening the demise. Its just a pattern I see developing. When you are part of the herd you are safer than when cast aloof. May be simplistic but every story I see we are now losing whether its fishing, farming, steel, financial markets. Where are the WINS?

Fair point, not as au fait with the details in steel aid but my point still stands. I feel the industry would have been safer within the protectionism of the EU, like it or loathe it. We are at the mercy of the sharks. My intent is not to troll, maybe a little, but to try and understand why and how we have walked willingly in such self harm. I really am bewildered. I would love to be wrong, I really, really would but I cannot see for the life of me what we have gained, really gained from having to go through all the divisions to make it worthwhile. I really, really loved this country but it has released demons that I thought England would never accept.

Again, surely the loss of peoples jobs is no laughing matter. We had the might of EU state aid to mitigate against these scenarios but your happier to see the Chinese flood our markets whilst the EU can protect theirs. What a patriot! Remind me of all the benefits so far.

Brexit benefit number 1234? UK steel EU protections to be stripped allowing cheap imports and thus destroying uk steel in one fell swoop 👏. carry on , nothing to see here

Hi Jeremy, ongoing spat with the racist Xenophobe known as Muckie

Lol, this was just for Verlaines benefit. I know it lol. Well played sir

Your point is pony. Grealish is the new Messi and we have been watching Gazza score the same goal for the last week constantly over the last week with the commentators “wetting” themselves. It’s the media ffs it’s what they do. Anything to get upset eh? Give yourself a break

Grow up ffs. Watch the footie and have your culture war later

No, that’ll be your glorious leaders chosen by Johnson, Fish rots from the head.

Ok?

Isn’t it, who are you playing? Rodney?

Names Mick according to Muckie duckie.