The Kraken

You disgust me. So does your mate.

MLG's 50k stadium plans would be in tatters if that were true.

Wow, do you think?

You obviously haven't read my earlier post where I said I know the MU game will sell out. Why do we only have 45k potential supporters? The club published database figures that are massively in excess of that figure.

So don't make it personal. You chose to come in the thread without actually discussing anything and doing nothing but pouring scorn. I'd welcome the ooportunity to discuss it with those who have previously stated my views as "nonsense" and as having a "Dell sized mentality" for saying that we're not ready for a bigger stadium yet. The attendance for the Wigan game will likely be quite impressive against one of the more "unpopular" sides. Tickets still being available for the Man U game is very surprising to me, especially given the rhetoric from some of how difficult it was previously to get one in the PL against the big sides.

He coached them directly did he? trying to equate his current role with the role he had at Saints is tenuous at best.

Whoops. 2 howlers from Butland, 2 goals against.

And yet here you are still telling everyone what a pointless discussion it is, and how it shouldn't be talked about, yet still joining in. Very odd. This will be an ongoing topic of conversation probably for a few years. Simply because a lot of people (including myself) have expressed a belief that we may in future need a bigger stadium. The topic of conversation will revolve around when that should happen. Right now, initial indications would suggest it shouldn't be right now, or any time soon. But things may change, and things will be discussed when they do. If you don't like that, don't join in.

Or why not just go by the actual tickets sold? For which neither game has sold out yet (and the Man U game was previously being talked about as being almost impossible to get tickets for). Is that not perhaps slightly more relevant than making up random numbers?

I don't know, how sad is it? And yet you not only posted about it but spent even more time finding a hilarious picture to accompany your post.

Yeah, but to be fair you're forgetting about the effect of the flexible pricing policy........

Yeah agreed. All of the bullsh*t about back in 2004 tickets being sold out weeks in advance and tickets for the top games being unobtainable (and that this time round we're even more appealing than then) is being shown up a bit so far. If I wanted a game for perhaps the most attractive home game of the season (Man Utd) I could very easily get one right now. Pretty much everyone accepted we could sell a few more tickets for the big games than the capacity. Talk of a 50K stadium is laughable. We'd probably struggle to get 35K against United at this rate.

I can understand some of the calls for a bigger stadium. For instance, the Man U game will likely sell out soon so there is the prospect that we could sell a few more tickets if the capacity were available. That said, its still debatable just how many extra tickets we could sell for that game. The Wigan game for instance is not yet sold out even in areas of the stadium other than the extra tickets that were returned by Wigan. The United game will be one of the most popular games of the season and yet has reached general sale and tickets are still freely on sale, hardly difficult to get hold of. The same old debates once again of course.

I'm a broken man just thinking about it.

Don't tell MLG that, he'll probably implode.

You entirely missed my point on over-interference. It was the mongrammed tracksuit and pushing through transfers over his managers' heads that earned him criticism in certain quarters. I personally didn't have too much of a problem with him bringing in players; we saw the likes of Crouch and Niemi because of that approach. And its not dissimilar to the system we have now with a transfer committee. As my previous post to Frank stated, this approach was another stick for some to beat him with.

It was another stick to beat him with, but he did nothing to downplay it (just the opposite in fact).

Only the blinkered fail to recognise the good things Lowe did (new stadium, development of the academy, run the business at break-even) alongside the awful things he did (poor managerial appointments, dreadful PR, over-interference in the playing side).

Michael Laudrup is a former great footballer who has previously played and recently managed in Spain. Nicola Cortese is an Italian businessman, previously based in a Swiss bank. I'm not sure the two can be readily compared quite so easily.

What are you getting all excited about Tim? I wasn't being a pedant, I was explaining that there are some of us who have a different view of what Saints' best team has ever been. Have another read, I was speaking for myself and "some" others. Weird.

The best Saints team in my lifetime finished 2nd in the league behind one of the best Liverpool sides in history. I assume you're too young to remember that, but for some of us there's an absolute chasm between this team and our best ever (the success of which I doubt I'll ever see again).

In contrast, I thought it showed that Everton have a pretty decent side and will definitely be in or around the European places this year. Exactly where a lot of our fans expect us to be in the next season or two. Our game against Everton will potentially show har far from or close to that we are. Fellaini was immense last night, and an indicator of the trouble RL can cause at this level with his height and ability to bring others into the game in and around the box.

I thought this game was being linked with the Man United game? Seems like it isn't from the comments....

That wasn't a sending off challenge.

I don't think for one minute I would suggest that City were lucky.