The Kraken

By hitting out at the buying club.

Our bid will be finalised soon. We can't tell you what it is yet, or when it will be finalised, but it does exist, honest. And its better than Chanrai's bid (even though we've not had it accepted yet, either conditionally or unconditionally).

Where has he (or anyone) said that we would get that low a figure?

The Gibraltar and Brighton games have changed my opinion of Pompey. Originally I wanted them just liquidated; let them die a quick death and let the Pompey Trust put them back together again. Now, I think it might be rather amusing to see them carry on, get spanked in League 1 (all the way down to League 2 and further), and see Chinny further Pardew the club until they're on their financial knees again in two years time when the parachute payments are gone. Then this thread can carry on and the little side show down the road can carry on apace to the Southampton Premier League main show. God bless you Balram Chanrai.

Indeed. That's the sign of an amazing chairman.

Well of course no-one WANTS to pay them all they're owed. But if liquidated the parachute payments will be held back to primarily pay the football creditors, including the players, so they'll get close to what they're owed if the club go bust, so that's one way they can get it. So there has to be a compromise to channel the PPs to the players and keep the club running, that's surely the only acceptable compromise that can be reached.

2, without a doubt. I really would laugh my arse off to see this team of no-hopers get thrashed all the way down to League 2 and beyond. Then, when Chainrai cleans up on all the PPs within a couple of years, the Trust can take over and live within their means of their 4,000 - 5,000 average gates.

If we're raiding Real lets just get Cronaldo on board; he'll be blown away by our ambition.

I'm waiting for the flexible price of season tickets to go down before I buy mine. Its a gamble but I think I'll be proved right.

Just the opposite, I'd have said.

I'm sure they may do, but if its as accurate as our one then its equally worthless. In any case I'm sure there some information out there that we don't know about which will clearly have an effect and make a comparison impossible.

According to this facebook page: They had almost 20,000 in early bird sales by late April.

Agreed. I was expecting at least as many sold as when we were previously in the Premier League. It seems we may not even achieve that figure, which is very disappointing given the apparent never-seen-before feelgood factor and potential of the club. Still, a bit of time to go yet so we'll see.

As previously thought, and with Blackburn seemingly holding out for £6M, apparently we get another Jose Fonte. I don't see the value in that at all. That's not how we play. At all. Lallana cannot be considered in any form a glorified full back. Nor can Guly, de Ridder or even Chaplow. Our full backs are also very attacking, and the addition of Clyne does nothing to redress that approach. Yes, there are also a number of positive comments I also left out. Dann could be a very good signing, but I'd just be concerned we'd be spending a considerable sum of money and not actually getting the player we truly need. If we do buy 2 CBs and the next one is the better, commanding player that Dann supposedly needs then fine. In Nige we trust and all that.

Malcolm Waldron.

Any mention of it I've seen has just been along the lines of "Southampton's new kit, a deviation this season from the traditional red & white stripes". No outrage or anything, just a general indifference to it. As for the red shorts & socks I doubt too many outside Hampshire actually know and care enough to make a song and dance about it.

Like I say, I think its only a possibility if the club is liquidated first. Chinny's primary objectove is to get the high wage earners out, cream off as much of the parachute payments as possible then bail out. I think a realistic option 2 for him is going to be liquidate the club and then sell for development with the football covenant out of the way. I don't see a scenario whereby the club continuing with a sold ground for development is a likely possibility.

Oh of course, I agree. As I say I wouldn't be surprised if TBH does the off pretty soon, claiming fears for his safety. Kanu ain't coming back any time soon so he's gone, Kitson is in the firing line so he may choose that way out too. All the while the little sh*t storm being created here has little or no effect.

TBH was at training. Although with the witchhunt being whipped up I wouldn't be surprised to see players refusing to show up for fear of their personal safety.

I think that's a massively tough sell. There's all sorts of precedents for League 1 clubs sustaining a stadium of that size. Espcecially so were they to just mothball one or two stands. IMO that wouldn't come close to stacking up. The council and planners would fight tooth and nail to stop first a sale of the ground and then development permissions, I just could in no way at all see that happening. If they were liquidated then yes, or course. But Chainrai is seeking to first of all keep the club going. I'd say his next option is liquidation and a sale, but not CVA and then a sale.

I simply can't see how players will accept a deal. They would have to write off hundreds of thousands of deferred payments, on the off chance that they might get some of it back over 5 years. And write off any claim they have to their earnings over the final duration of their contract. Alternatively they can refuse a deal and if the club goes under become a football creditor, and therefore in line for a much bigger chunk of the parachute payments as their compensation. The only decision they have to make is the moral one; do they lose out on a huge sum of money so that this incarnation of the football club can survive? Or do they not agree to compromise, see the club go under and reform, and actually get paid a decetn whack of what they are owed? Its a moral dilemma for the players, there is no financial argument at all that can be made.

Yeah that's my point, Chinny couldn't just take over and sell the ground while the club was still going. He'd have to liquidate and keep the charge over the ground, refuse to allow a Phoenix club to use Fratton.

Unless I'm missing something, they can't just sell the ground for development though. There's the covenant on it that it can only be used for sports purposes, and you'd have to think if that was indeed Chinny's motive then he'd be blocked at every turn by the council and planning departments?

Well I think we'd all trust that. But a bit of healthy speculation never harmed anyone. If Blackburn are holding out for anywhere near £6M (and there's no news suggesting they need to sell) then I'm not sure I see too much value in it.

Don't bother, Charlie is a bit of an oddball WUM who rarely makes any sense.