Sheaf Saint

So that's 16 points from a possible 21 in our last 7 games. That's promotion form if we can keep that up.

So if everyone did that, who would do the menial minimum-wage jobs that are essential to the rest of society? Absolute tosh. There are a significant percentage of people who do not want the stress and the responsibility of the rat race; people who are not power-hungry and ambitious and have no interest in having a 'career'. After all, the only reason we go out to work is to earn money to support ourselves as this is the only way we can get by in a capitalist society. I know plenty of people like this and they are honest, hard-working people who just want to do what they have to in order to earn a living and spend the rest of their time as they see fit. According to you, people like this are lazy scum are they?

Honestly, if somebody decides not to invite me back to dinner just because I didn't follow some bizarre ancient tradition, then I would quite happily never go back anyway if those kind of things are important to them.

Not what I am saying at all. Where I work at the moment we have no dress code. It is an IT-based environment so, as you can imagine, there are some proper sweaty geeks working here. Nobody in the management of the company considers an individual's personal appearance as having any bearing on their ability to do their job, as it should be. Employing people, or judging people in any way, based on their appearance is completely irrational. I understand that it has become a huge part of modern society, but it is irrational nonetheless.

OK, in terms of applying for a job, I agree with you, even if I don't believe that it should be that way. But in everyday life, I constantly encounter people who are obsessed with their own image as if everybody else actually gives a damn, and I am reminded of a famous quote from Mark Twain... "You wouldn't worry what other people thought of you if you knew how seldom they did".

Do you not see the absurdity of that though?

Wrong. Image is nothing, it's substance that counts. The world is a f***ed up place because of too many people who care too much about their image.

No, I don't. Seriously dune, why is it important how people hold a knife and fork? To me it just displays a propensity to project an image of oneself other than one's real personality. It is conformity; a desire to fit in and be considered 'normal'. In my opinion, it is folk like you who pass judgement on others because of irrelevancies like this that have more to be ashamed of.

But who is to say what's 'proper'? Why is it important? I was taught how to hold a knife and fork properly by my mum, but I choose not to because it doesn't even register on my scale of importance what other people think of me when I'm eating. I consider it to be a load of old elitist nonsense that doesn't make a shred of difference to the world we live in.

I have just got of the phone to undoubtedly the most unhelpful and useless customer service team you could ever hope not to deal with. Basically, I booked a hire car for a holiday in France in August and when we arrived at the pick up point we were told that there was no reservation for us. Upon investigating, it seems that the reservation was cancelled in error. This resulted in us having to stay in a hotel overnight in Angouleme until they could get a car for us the next morning, and the new rental ended up costing more than the original one we booked, despite being for a day less than originally advised. I was told to contact the customer services team upon return to England who could process my claim for reimbursement for the extra cost I incurred as a result of this. Some chance. I have spoken to them numerous times and was given a case reference number to email my complaint to, and I was told that I would be contacted back in 3 days by a claims agent. FOUR WEEKS later, I finally got an email back giving me some waffle about their policy about not confirming a reservation immediately (despite the email 'confirmation' I got after booking) and completely ignoring the fact that a previous agent had advised me the rental was cancelled in error 3 days before the pickup date. I emailed back stating that I did not accept this and that I wanted the case to be escalated - this was two weeks ago. I called back this morning to find out what was going on and apparently it is their policy to close the claims case once they have responded, regardless of whether or not the customer is satisfied with their response, and that I had gone to the back of the queue and must wait for ten working days from the date of my response to get a contact from them. Basically, they are doing everything they can to squirm out of paying up for something to which they have already admitted liability, and the general ambivalence of the staff I have spoken to has been nothing short of shocking. So my advice is this... If you are planning to hire a car anywhere in Europe - DO NOT USE EUROPCAR.

What happened to Button? He was 5th then by the time I got to work and loaded up my PC he was 13th.

You ordered your sloes instead of picking them yourself???

And then go on to profess the importance of not conceding again early in the second half, no doubt. The man's powers of observation are truly world-class.

I used to be but I've become thoroughly bored of it over the last few years.

I'm signed up the the Sheffield one and I recently bought for me and my GF an all-over body massage for £9. NINE QUID!!!!!!!! I was put onto it by a mate and my first thought was that if you find something on the internet that looks too good to be true, it always is. But she booked up hers so I did the same and hey presto. Haven't actually had them yet mind, but I've spoken with the masseur and it's all legit.

http://newsarse.com/2010/10/20/live-spending-review-as-it-happens/

I've just made two bottles of the stuff from the harvest I picked on sunday. Never tried it before, and normally I cannot stand gin (vile stuff that it is) but I'm looking forward to cracking them open on christmas day alongside a few mince pies with brandy butter.

What are we using at the moment then?

Stupid question perhaps, but would it not be possible to utilise the existing Sea Harrier fleet on these carriers or do they need to be retired before then?

I watched Superbad last night after a few people told me it was hilarious... Did I miss something???

Completely agree...

This is true. However, none of the people who have made it to the summit have ever reported seeing the photographs up there. Of course they would be buried under lots of snow and ice by now and due to the time it takes to get up and down, climbers never stay at the summit for more than a few minutes either, so it is very possible he did make it and left them. Edmund Hillary has, quite disingenuously in my opinion, stated that if it is somehow proved that Mallory did make it to the summit, the record books should not be changed as successfully summitting any mountain should involve returning alive. I guess he has a point, but that would not detract from the fact that Mallory would be the first person to stand at the very top of the world.

So the 'sh1t or bust' attempt to get back to the prem.... Bust it is then.

The suggestion is that he fell from a point further back down from where he was last sighted by the support team at the camp.