Sheaf Saint

Careful mate. During the buildup to last years FA cup final I said on here that I would rather see a team from my home county win it than a team from a different country, and you would not believe some of the abuse that was aimed in my direction as a result.

Unbelievable. This thread just proves what a sorry state our club is in. Michelle tries to lighten the mood with a litle humour and even that turns into fan vs fan. It would be funny if it wasn't so soul-destroyingly depressing.

Me too. I was (and still am) rubbish at art but his shows gave me inspiration to at least try. RIP Tony, you will be missed.

Rewind four and a bit years to the start of the 2004-2005 season and our beloved chairman was quoted in the press as saying "Football is a results-driven business" in response to rumours that he was about to get rid of Sturrock. He duly sacked Luggy despite the fact that his record actually wasn't that bad and we had played some pretty good football during his tenure. So what do you have to say about it now then Mr Lowe? Is JP's record of one win in 14 home games seriously better than Sturrock's? You weren't even at the game yesterday and your silence is deafening.

The answer is simple. It was the cheapest option available at the time, but Lowe beiong Lowe cannot help but try to put a positive spin on things and insult the intelligence of his paying customers at the same time by dressing it up as a 'revolutionary new coaching style'. By 'revolutionary' Rupert, do you mean 'sh1te'?

Excellent BeatleSaint. Very thoughtful and reasoned letter. Perhaps you should send it to the Echo so more than just a handful of internet warriors can read it. Have you actually sent it to Mr Wilde or is it just an open letter? If so, I wonder if he will even give you the decency of a reply. In light of his recent demonstrations of cowardice, I rather suspect not.

This is a brilliant post and sums it all up to me. I think this should be plastered all over the front pages of tomorrow's Echo just to make sure that Rupert and the money men who are supposedly pulling the strings can actually appreciate just what this man's presence alone is doing to this club. I very rarely post on the main board any more either, owing to the fact that I very rarely manage to get to games so it is hard to have any strong opinion of what is happening on the pitch. But when I turned on the TV at 4.45 yesterday and saw we were 0-2 against another of our relegation rivals, my heart just sank and my immediate reaction was "How much lower do we have to sink before somebody takes hold of the situation and does what is necessary? How much more of this sh1t do the fans have to put up with before we say enough is enough?" I think the thing that annoys me most is the way that the Poortvliet/youth thing has been dressed up as an experiment. It is plainly obvious to anybody who knows anything about football and, perhaps more importantly, how RL and his board work that this was just the cheap option. For Rupert to even try and tell us it is a revolutionary new way of doing things is the biggest insult of all. Just be honest and tell the truth - we are skint and can't afford anything else. And the fact that Rupert, by his own admission, knows very little about football and prefers hockey makes it even harder to swallow. What position is he in to pretend that this revolutionary new coaching stlye is even remotely likely to work? Does he genuinely not understand why nobody has tried it before? For the love of god (and all the Saints) Rupert will you please bite the bullet and walk away before you become even more hated tha Adolf Hitler. Though I suspect it is already too late for that. When he finally destroys this club (that's when, not if) he will never be able to walk the streets of Southampton again without a permanent body guard.

And rightly so too. Successive Israeli governments seem to have this belief that they are untouchable and can do no wrong. The incident today is the third such incident since the recent operation began where they have deliberately targeted UN buildings which are supposed to be safe havens for civilians who have been affected by the fighting. But as usual the UN will probably stand by and do nothing. As an organisation it really has become a toothless tiger and most of the world's more unsavoury leaders have wisened up to that fact. Remember how they threatened military intervention in Iraq if Saddam failed to allow the weapons inspectors in? It was an empty threat because they bottled out when he called their hand.

I think Lowe's biggest mistake is believeing that he could be a successful football chairman even though, by his own admittance, he knew absolutely nothing about the game when he took over. 12 years on and he is still none the wiser.

In actual fact, I can't remember the last time I even watched an England game.

I swear to god I will never watch another prem football match if this transfer goes through. Utterly fvcking ridiculous. With the world's economy on its knees, how in the hell is a footballer worth £100m? In what twisted version of reality do millions of people starve every day yet someone gets paid £200,000 a week just to kick a bit of leather around a field?

YAY! I've sussed it now! I didn't realise that I had to create a NAT rule to associate the ethernet with the Dialer1 interface but I've done that now and it's working. Thank fook for that, I've been tearing my hair out over the last two days with this. Thanks for your help mate, that config that you posted really helped.

I watched Mel Gibson's Apocalypto lastnight. There really isn't any plot (Hunter gets captured by Mayans and escapes to run back to his pregnant wife - that's it) but it's an enjoyable film. The locations are beautiful and the sets and costumes of the Mayan city are visually stunning. Some good action scenes (you could argue the whole film is just one big action scene) but I would have prefered a bit more in the way of a plot. I thought the ending was a bit naf as well. But if you switch your brain off you'll enjoy it for what it is - a historical (probably not very accurate) action film. 7/10.

Thanks for the help so far guys, it's been very vaulable. Right, I've made a bit of progress but I'm still a bit stumped. The router is by all accounts connecting to the ISP OK. The connection tests on the SDM tool are passing as successful and using hyperterminal I can ping the DNS server OK, but that's it. Neither of the PCs on the ethernet are able to connect to the outside world even though they are both connected to the router and receiveing an IP address over DHCP. If I try running a tracert on the IP address of the DNS server from my PC, it only gets as far as the router so there is obviously a problem somewhere between the ethernet and the exit interface on the router. Anybody got any ideas?

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Yeah I've done all that. It's set up as a dhcp server and kicking out IP adresses to the LAN clients OK. I've set the pvc values (0/38) and that's showing OK. It just doesn't let me add the default route, or it does but when I run the connection test using the SDM software it falls down at the 'checking exit interface' stage which means it doesn't have a default route to send the external traffic to. I've checked with Plusnet and they tell me that they have 5 different servers that I could connect to each time I log in so it's not possible for them to provide me with a 'next hop' IP address.

Cheers for the assistance anyway Stevo.

I had a look and tried inputing the IOS command like it says on that page but the router doesn't like the command for some reason. I tried it a few times. This is doing my swede in now, I've been messing about with this for the best part of two days!!!!!!

It was factory defaulted when I got it. Bought it off ebay for £35, hence I don't have a support contract with Cisco themselves.

I've got the IP from Plusnet but when I run the connection test it tells me that I need to configure either a user-specific or a default route to work with the ADSL interface, and I don't know what information I need in order to do that.

I've recently acquired a Cisco 837 router and I'm trying to configure it to connect to my ISP (Plusnet) but there seems to be a problem with the routing and I don't really have enough knowledge about Cisco routers to know how to fix it. Can anyone help?

Oooops. Wrong thread!

Linky linky Here you go Alps. Seeing as you are having a go at others for not using the Search Forum feature and can't be arsed to do it yourself, here is the link. Oh and guess what? You posted on the thread yourself.

Mind if I ask why?

It made me chuckle when I heard about this on the radio today. Somebody from BAA is claiming that Heathrow will need to have a 3rd runway if it is to survive. WTF!? The busiest international airport in the world would collapse and shut down if they don't build a 3rd runway? I seriously doubt that somehow.