
Saintandy666
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Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
It has in a colonial, white mans burden, sense. Not in the same way as spastic has though. But it does show how words are acceptable then not acceptable. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
The reason people don't use it nowadays is because it sets whites vs. everyone else, the colonial attitude when we patronisingly went and took over half the world to 'fix the poor stupid coloured people who just need our help.' The white man's burden and all that(which is bull****). That's why it isn't used anymore. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
And thus hypochondriac decreed it and it was so. Or not. Everyone is entitled to say as they wish. If you disagree with me, engage with me, don't resort to low level insults. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Well, the acceptable public term to use is black... hence why Hansen was made to apologise so it doesn't really matter what what 40+ year olds think on this issues. I don't set the meaning of terms. They are what they are and langauge has moved on from the 50's. See the spastic analogy again. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Coloured lumps all non-whites together as one, as some sort of other. It's a bit silly really. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
I covered this in an earlier post when I said about it being from a colonial based attitude. It used to be preferable to the words around at the time in the 50's, but now black is used. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Probably! Language evolves all the time. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
It's a generational thing. For example the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People in the US used the term coloured as it was preferable to the to other terms used at the time. In modern circles, the meaning of the term has evolved and my generation will refer to it as black. People my age do not use the word coloured ever. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Oh of course. It's the current context and connotation that matters. And the modern way is to say black because coloured is a bit patronising. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
And you don't speak for everyone either. But I do speak with a lot more 'young' people every day in a casual situation and over the years than you do. The only people I have ever heard you the term coloured are older people(i.e my grandparents do sometimes). The term will die out. Every black person I know refers to themselves as black. Black is the normal term these days. -
Fellas, how much do you spend on a hair cut?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Wow, that's a lot! I hope you get a decent haircut for that. Any particular reason for the price? -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
No young person would say coloured. They would say black. In the future, the term coloured won't be used at all. At the moment, it is only used by older generations. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Yes. The accepted term is the accepted term. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Black and white is fine. Those are the accepted terms these days. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Connotation and context. Word meanings change over time. Spastic used to be the accepted term, used by those with Cerebal Palsy, i.e the Spastics Society(now Scope)... but now it is a derogatory word because of the evolution of its meaning. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Well, kinda my point... we are all COLOURED. So calling a group of people coloured is stupid. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Are white people colourless then? No, they're not. They have a colour of skin like everyone else. Therefore, before you consider the connotation of the word and whether it is offensive, it's a dumb term. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Well, yer, of course. We're all people at the end of it all anyways. And black people aren't actually black and whites not white. We all have a COLOUR of skin though, which is why calling black people coloured is stupid. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Probably because you are then saying whites don't have colour (they do) and what does being coloured entail anyways? Aren't white people coloured as well? So, it's a dumb term for one. It's also a colonial term that comes from the idea that white people are white and then everyone else is coloured, from the time when we were still extremely patronising to people of other colours. Can't we just call everyone the colour they are rather than saying whites are not coloured and everyone else is coloured. I wouldn't use it, I'd just say 'black' because that is factually correct. -
Fellas, how much do you spend on a hair cut?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
My last haircut cost me £9. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
I agree. I don't believe he is racist, he's just using the terms of yesteryear. My grandparents would do the same, even though they don't think whites are superior in anyway. It's just old habits. -
Alan Hansen - apologises for what, exactly?
Saintandy666 replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Black person is the accepted term nowadays, because they are black... not coloured which is a bit vague. Are whites non-coloured then? And what does that entail... I think we should just call whites white and blacks black.