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No I'm not. I said we don't know what budget previous managers had. Pavlychenko, Bentley, Darren Bent and Berbatov were all signed before Redknapp for over £10m each. How much donyou think they were on? Going back even further Dean Richards and Sergi Rebrov were signed for big money at the time. Do you think Jurgen Klinsman was playing for Spurs for peanuts?! So don't make our Redknapp had a pot of gold the others never did. Spurs have always been relatively big spenders. Youre speculating as to what the wages might be. When the facts show he spent little More than previous incumbents and had far greater success.

/\ clearly the budget and wage bill want a problem for 'Daniel' as he brought the players to the club and approved the deals. Who could forget Redknapps Van Der Vaart signing interview from his car window where he said 'Daniel' rang him and said he had a present for him.

Maybe he offered to let them install his personal toilet at SMS?

Do you know what Spurs wage bill was and what his budget was then? Do you know what budget previous managers had? As I've said above any manager will want to continually improve their side, you should worry if they didn't. The fact that no champions league football this season isn't disasterous for spurs suggests their finances aren't in too bad a state, they aren't about to do a Leeds are they. Martin O'neill had a net spend of £70m whilst at Villa and never finished higher than 6th. Spurs finished 4th, 5th and 4th in his last three aeasons with a net spend of £8m. Yet some still crisitcse him as a manager that can only spend money. Something every manager needs, having it is one thing spending it wisely is another. And get your facts right Bentley, Jenas and Pavlychenko were at Spurs before Redknapp joined. And Adrian, im not talking about bringing him back and I don't like the bloke, just putting people right who say that he's a terrible manager with no clue who bankrupts clubs.

As I said above, here is the only place He's failed and it was quite clear from the moment he got here he didn't want to be here. I have no idea what Tottenhams wage bill is but as a club which has qualified for the champions league under his management and would have again last season if it wasn't for Chelsea's improbable win of the trophy I'd expect them to have a wage bill of an established top 6 club, which is exactly what he's made them, unlike a number of managers that have tried and failed to do the same at Spurs.

Isnt that the same with any manager though? What sort of a manager would say 'we dont need to improve, what we have is good enough'? Did Mancini do this in the summer? Has Ferguson ever done it? If you give a manager £20m to spend they'll spend it. It's down to the chairman to control it. And as i said above Redknapps net spend at Spurs was only £8m. So not quite the open cheque book the myth suggests.

I'm not talking about his morals and ethics. I'm talking about his managrial ability. It seems the only people who think he is a sh*t manager are Saints fans that post on spaz boards.

Hello Barry. Whose fault is that? The manager that identifies the players, or the chairmen tha agree the contacts? How many times did Redknapp mention "Daniel" in his traditional car window wound down, deadline day, leaving training ground interview? And you can only have a squad of 25 in the PL, so huge squads aren't true.

But Chelsea only used to get 13,000 in 1984. You cant use them as an example.

If you actually look at Redknapps spending whilst at Spurs it's not as huge as the myth. Net spends 08/09 = £19.4m 09/10 = minus £1m 10/11 = £17.5m 11/12 = minus £27m http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/tottenham-hotspur-transfers.html His net whilst at Spurs was actually only around £8m whilst taking them to the champions league. Kind of p*sses on 'the he only succeeds where he has money' myth.

How many clubs & managers win things without spending money? You still have to spend the money you've got wisely. Just ask Kenny Dalglish. Martin O'Neill, a manager every regards as amazing never finished higher than 6th with all the millions he spent at Villa. Redknapp got Spurs into the champions league.

28,000 there yesterday. 2,500 away fans mean we only sold around 3,000 to non season ticket holders. Less than half of the ones that were available. Shocking.

Anyone that says Redknapp isn't a good manager is a fool. He took Bournemouth into the second tier for the first time ever. Took West Ham to a fifth placed finish. He took Pompey up as champions, then to a 9th place finish and an FA Cup win and into Europe. He took Spurs into the champions league for the first time ever. He's done well everywhere he's been, the only place he has failed is with us. Take off the Saints tinted glasses for a second and his record is decent. You use his only winning one trophy as a reason to knock him, but in reality how many clubs outside the big guns have won anything in the last 20 years? You say with Spurs you'd expect him to do well, but plenty of other clubs have spent big money to get into the champions league and not made it. martin O'Neill at Villa? A manager some were wetting themselves about us getting a couple of years ago. The bloke may be a helmet but he has a good track record and has had relative success at every club he's been at. You may not like or agree with his methods and the way he does things but they work. Dont forget its not just him that signs players, the clubs owners have to authorise the transfers as well. Give any manager money and they'll spend it. If it was anyone else with that track record other than Redknapp being linked people would be in rapture about him coming here. By the way, that doesn't mean i want him here either, but to say he isnt a good manager is idiotic.

Shut up Dull days. Lallana is one of the players that we are not allowed to criticise.

He came on at left back against Everton and looked comfortable by all accounts. I really dont understand why he was on the bench if he wasn't going to be brought on when needed. By bringing Hooliveld on and moving Yoshida you make 2 changes to the back 4. Yoshida was poor at right back, not his fault as he isn't a right back and Hooliveld was his usual error ridden self this season when he came on. As well as the first goal he almost let Rodeliga in in the first half when he didnt deal with a straightforward long ball into the area. Fonte held that defence together yesterday and we'd have been smashed out of sight by a better team.

So are we saying that the 'unique customer experience' is actually worse than the orginal one? It would seem so.....

I expect Liverpool fans look back on that day as the turning point in their history. Although they eventually rallied to win the league that season the recovery from the hammering they took that day was only temporary. A clearly shell shocked Liverpool side never fully recovered from the beating they took and top international players like Glen Hysen, Steve McMahon and Peter Beardsley were never the same. Alan Hansen soon retired, no doubt realising the old legs could not cope with players of the power and pace of Paul Rideout anymore and Kenny Dalglish appeared pondourous and indicisive in his decision making after that day, no doubt filled with self doubt about how his tactics had been so brutally and clinically ripped apart by Chris Nicholl. He would soon after resign and history shows he never repeated his success at Liverpool elsewhere. A shocked Liverpool squad was dismantled by his replacement, Souness, who realised thst he needed to add backbone to the side so promptly signed Julian Dicks and Paul Stewart in an attempt to add some steal and passion to a traumatised club and the road back to the top has been long for them. I'm sure everyone associated with Liverpool wonders what might have been If the fixture list had been kinder to them that season and not forced them to meet a rampant Saints at the top of the game.

The problem is not everyone at the club thinks that. Whilst Reading and West ham were talking about staying up being the priority our manager and chairman were going on about European football and eventually challenging for the title. Those inside the club won't consider just staying up an amaing success.

As I said it wasn't with hindsight. We said at the time the defence and goalkeeper werent good enough and Nige agreed as he wanted to improve in every position. It didn't happen whilst we chased and signed attacking players, two of which won't be first choice if everyone is fit.

Seriously? Most people I go with could see that the entire back five weren't good enough. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Last season we were great defensively when we had 70% possession and were all over teams. When we were under pressure we often conceded and those goals were often due to sloppy mistakes. That didnt bode well for the premier league as we won't get the majority of possession in a lot of games and will be under pressure a fair bit and it's coming home to roost now. Nige seemed to agree as he signed a right back, a goalkeeper, a centre back, tried to get a left back and is also on record as saying he wanted two centre halves and two keepers. So of the 6 signings he wanted to make he got 3 and a panic free transfer goalkeeper signed when it was clear that KD wasn't up to it. So it wasn't a case of speculation and guess work, the manager identified the areas that needed improving and for whatever reason it didn't happen,whilst we signed 2 strikers for a combined fee of £10m that won't get near a start when everyone is fit.

:lol: It never fails

And the fella from Rennes for £6m as well.

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And it works when you have a full back that overlaps, today we didn't. You could see the idea was to shore up the right flank as they were targeting it with Yoshida being out of position but we had no attacking threat down the right when JP went off.

I think we'd have won if Richardson hadn't got injured. Yoshida was awful at right back, not his fault he was playing out of position but Fulham targeted that second half. As for Hooliveld, he simply isn't good enough. He's a top man but not a top player.