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So to summarise your idea, we build 8,000 seats at a cost of c£20m, which we sell at a cheaper price but with no way of knowing who will buy them. We need to Hope everyone of the new, cheap seats go to new fans and not existing fans taking advantage of the cheaper price. should disaster happen and the current fanbase decided they wanted to pay less and who could blame them so they snap up the cheap tickets we'd be exactly where we are now with tickets too expensive for most and all current matchgoers snapping up the cheap tickets. Theys be paying less, the fans we want to entice still can't afford it and we've given ourselves millions of debt for seats that remain empty. So actually expansion could well mean a decrease in revenue and an increase is debt. I can see why you think a superb businessman like Cortese wouldn't go for it to be honest.

I'm open to ideas I just don't see how you could stop existing season ticket holders buying the slashed, I mean reduced tickets and leaving their current seats empty which would be at the same price and still too expensive for those you say can afford it now. Perhaps you could explain.

An ingenious idea Frankie boy, but what's to stop existing season ticket holders just buying up the cheaper season tickets? I know I would, if I could get a season ticket £200 cheaper for the same product I'd do my upmost to get one. Then you'll have 8,000 existing season ticket holders sitting in the cheaper areas and their seats empty which are already too expensive for the ones you are hoping to attract by cheaper prices. So we have crowds of 30,000 still, just 8,000 are paying £200 a season less than they were before. So you're going to have to restrict those cheaper seats to 'brand new customers only' - that's going to go down well!!! As for following the Bayern Munich model, well there is a small difficulty with this in that Bayern Munich aren't trying to offer cheap tickets to attract fans they don't have. They are already the biggest club in Germany and a giant of European football, they played in last season champions league final which they also hosted. They aren't looking at getting into millions of pounds worth of debt to attract new fans with cheaper prices. They are in one of the largest and most visited cities in Germany and one of the most successful football clubs in the world. Southampton isnt. Other than all of that I think it's a great idea and would work easily.

So it would be ridiculous to say 'slashing pricing' but quite right to say offering reduced and in some cases substantially reduced prices, okay then. So I'm strill struggling with your business plan, please explain how there is a buiness case for the great businessman We are told Cortese is to spend £15-£20m to build the extension, then slash, sorry I mean dramatically reduce, the prices to sell them, when he isn't doing that for ones we can't sell right now and has done that at no time in the past. Not when we were getting 25k in the champion, 21k in league one and not now when we are only selling 2-3,000 match day tickets to home fans.

Reading & Swansea. Two teams we should beat.

Where have I complained we haven't sold every ticket?

I agree. We should just congratulate ourselves every week as to how great our attendance is, whatever it is. If we sell out that is amazing, if we don't it's still amazing to get 28,000 fans. This means the club have done an incredible job of sellinga massive 3,000 tickets to non season ticket holders and away fans. It's an incredible achievement to do such a thing.

Err, I'm a season ticket holder thanks. And it was quite obvious from the title what the thread was about, if you find it boring don't read it, it ain't difficult.

It wasn't me that said it was going to.

Probably too late, just like QPR.

"Julio Ceaser is a fantastic goalkeeper by the way' MLT 6th October.

That's the problem. A lot of our fans are doing just that. A lot are too naive or too blind to question anything done at the club and if anyone dares to they are pounced on as being anti club or anti chairman and wanting the club to fail. A lot are just skipping to games grateful we've got a club to support and reminding themselves of where we were 3 years ago. Yes we've come along way, yes things have been good but that doesn't mean we have to blindly accept and naively applaud everything the club does as being fantastic, when in reality some of it hasnt been.

Maybe you can help me with this because many seems to think this is a great idea and makes sense. However we keep being told Cortese is a great businessman so would a great businessman think its great business to spend £20m on an expansion and then reduce to price when we can't sell the tickets we have at the already reasonably priced cost? If people were saying Cortese will do it because he's a great guy, loves the fans and wants as many of us to see South Coast super club as cheaply as possible then I'd get it, but they don't, they say He's a great businessman.

Considering there were few complaints about the prices when they were announced, apart from family tickets which is another story, it isn't price. For example my season ticket first season at SMS was £450, this season it was £575, that's only an increaseof £12 per season since 2001, so it isn't price for the man on the street, after all we were told in the summer we live in an affluent area and people will be falling over each other to get here to see premier league football, this included a lot of Pompey fans as well as the casual ones from Sevenoaks, Gloucester, Shepton Mallett and ilfracombe tht just want to see premier league football and/or were looking for a Premer league team to support. I understand our ticket prices are around the midtable for premier league clubs, so I would say overall the clb have got it right. As for corporates, well from what I understand a crap product and service, high price, a succession of 'failed' sponsorship managers and poor relationships with local businesses are all to blame. Both I'd say in summary.

What are you on about? Danny Inngs is not a premier league player FFS

This is my point aintforever, why would we spend £15-£20m building extensions and extra seats, then slash prices to sell them when we can't sell the ones we we've got.

S does it or does it not involve slashing prices?

Really? I thought the fundamentals of your arguement to fill a bigger stadium was too offer deals to families and kids and dynamic pricing where the price goes up if there is huge demand and down if there is less demand. Therefore, given in a 45,000 stadium we'd have 17,000 tickets available right now, not much demand which cheapens the price no? So anyway, as i apparantly failed to grasp and accept the rational reasons for not waiting, just remind us, what was the business case for expanding now? And see if you can manage to do it in bullet points without resorting to foul language and personal attacks please, it's very immature.

Well I'm looking forward to finding out what this 'unique customer experience' is going to be which has lead to loyal staff being treated with contempt as our customer service for the last couple of years has been truely awful.

Who is slagging off the attendances and who is doing this whilst not going themselves?

Matt Elliott. Despite his on pitch image of being a bit of a tough guy was another pussy ruled by his woman who told him where she wants to live.

:lol: Man. moon. Waaaah waaaaahwaaaah, show me the posts, show me the posts, the get out clause of the self titled intelligent posters when firmly on the back foot.

Oh no Frankie boy. There were what seemed like weekly threads about what certain people expected to see happen soon, how we were maxed out and how we had more fans than Everton, how we need a bigger stadium because Chelsea only got 13,000 in 1984 and because they said man would never walk on the moon, i could go on. You were one of the most vocal in your support of these claims in your usual droning style. Therefore I find it somewhat surprising that now similar threads based on actual attendances and tickets sold, some might call it facts and reality and not say dreaming and speculation are now being disregarded as immature and adding no valuable addition to the debate. I would suggest that actual real life attendances Do indeed add some much needed valuable addition to the debate as they are real not based on what Reading might do in the future or how many tickets Sunderland sold in 1987. anyway, I'm sure we could have sold 45,000 for tomorrow if only we'd given them to kids for nothing and introduced dynamic pricing, everyone could be getting them for £1.50 at the moment.

If only the 10,000 others we were expecting had done the same.