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The specific specification is still to be agreed on.

When Lowe was he here he said the cost worked out around 3k per seat. I have no idea if prices have gone up or down since then.

It sounds so easy doesn't it. We build a team around our academy players and plug the gaps with good foreigners which weVe bought on the cheap. Can I ask why no other club has thought of this ingenious idea? Why didn't Man City do it instead of buying hundreds of millions of pounds worth of players? Why didn't Villa do it when they were finishing 6th three seasons in a row with a team containing Milner, Barry, Downing and Young? Why haven't Sunderland thought if doing it? It really is quite straightforward when you put it like that. It's incredible no one else has tried it and that we are the only club that could possibly succeed with it.

Exactly. It's natural progression. I will succeed where Mark Jackson failed and it won't be long before you're all singing Turkey woooh woooh He's comes from Shirley He respects our history

So,if you don't think it should be done now and that possibly could be in the future with continued on the pitch success. What exactly is the point of writing this long, keyboard thumping essays? We agree on that. As for your point about success by not spending millions, you point to Newcastle, who still finished Outside the champions league places, who still lost their valuable player and won nothing. The only clubs who make the regularly make the champions league are the ones who spend big. Even arsenal, the one you mentioned have spent over £100m on transfers over the last two seasons. P*ses on that argument doesn't it.. If you think we are going to bring through a crop of players and keep them of the standard good enough to play champions league football without adding players of champions league quality at champions leafue prices you're living in another planet sunshine.

Paper and ink FFS. A fly on the wall series about a group of crazy salesmen and their attempts to save the economy.

Friend and comedian first, consumables salesman second.

do you want a job? You'd fit right in!

£1.2m. Was 1989 I think. A lot of money back then. The record between English clubs was £2m. A record sale for us as well.

Sound better? What are you saying FFS? I've got a brilliant job. You ignorant ones have no understand what putting the wrong thickness of paper into a photocopier can do to the copy quality. It's a technical job FFS No. But we've got an in joke in the trade. We try to say the word 'would' as many times in conversation as possible. Coz obviously it sounds like wood which is where paper comes from. So it's things like 'would you believe it, this paper would be twice as expensive tomorrow if you don't buy it today' 'would I rip you off?' We are really are very funny in our trade. They should do a fly on the wall series about us.

I Don't sell hardware mush, no wonga in it. I sell consumables, by phone, to the trade. I'm single handedly raising the economy. Consumable sales people are saving this country. We are the war veterans of the 10s.We are the MBEs of the future. When we get out of recession Dave will look at our sales figures and we'll be invited for tea and MBEs with the Queen for services to the economy.

I heard that The training ground work has been stopped because Cortese is such a great guy he wanted to pay the builders straight away at and more than what they agreed as he was so impressed with the work done so far, they had to ammend contracts due to this which has held things up. There you go. Happy clappy rumour to spread.

I fail to see the relevance of how many we took to Wembley. Millwall and Luton have taken similar sized support there in recent years, are you suggesting they too need a bigger, 45,000 stadium? We attracted new fans when we moved to SMS or those that couldn't get in at the Dell, to fill this 45,000 stadium some are dreaming off, we will need to fill the Dell 3 times over and generate as may new fans on expansion as we did when we moved. Where are they all now? Where were they in 2003? Okay the evidence of the united team which was built in the late 80s and early 90s. Let's look at their team which won the cup winners cup in 1991. Gary Pallister, British record for a defender at the time, mark Hughes, united record when he resigned from Barcelona, Bryan Robson british record at the time, As well as the likes of Brian McClair, Steve Bruce, Dennis Iriwn and Paul Ince who were all signed for fees of around £1m, a lot of money for transfers between English clubs back then in their positions when you consider that the record fee back then was £2m for Paul Gasgoine, who was the golden boy of English football at that time. But it's all been do by having a good academy and adding the odd experienced player has it? It's not going very well for you this is it?

Tokyos has never left New Malden.

That just happened to be the paper I used, it was in all of them. You've conviniently ignored the metro which is arguably more critical of anti racism campaign groups. And We might be taking James comments out of context I said some of you woldnt like it didn't i!! Interesting That people accuse the paper again and need to suggest people have an agenda rather than approve Jsmes comments. If it it had been an article talking about how much racism is in football certain people would have been all over this thread. No quarter given for comments to be taken out of context and so on!

He could post them on here. I'm sure he'd get superb feedback.

Don't wear a shell suit, smoke a cigar and say 'now then now then now then'

Thanks. It makes sense now.

The thing you need to remember is mate that anything that hits at negativity is not welcome by some on here. If you want to fit in around here you need to follow a few things so just to remind you so you don't fall foul of the forum boo boys here they are Cortese is the greatest person who ever lived everything he does is amazing and even of you think it slightly wierd overcome these thought by remembering where we were 3 years ago and repeat 15 times 'in cortese we trust' Anything written in the media are lies and bullsh*t unless they are positive in which case it's amazing journalism which proves the progres we are making We are a mega club. The new Man u and on an unstoppable march to the champions league. If we win and play brilliantly it's thanks to the five year plan. If we are sh*t and lose that's also part of the 5 year plan and it doesn't really matter because we are two years ahead of it. Welcome to Saintsweb son. Enjoy posting.

Not for all remember, just for new fans or ones that can't afford it at the moment. The plan of how to stop existing fans simply buying the cheaper tickets and leaving their still too expensive seats empty is still in development stage.

Of course if we want to be a top 6 club it means every player that comes through our academy is going to have to be of international standard. That makes it a no from me.

What I'm saying is its a great thing that this is the case. And it also proves that all the nonsense spouted by certain individuals is that football is racist, black managers don't get a chance and everyone has it in for them is a lot of boll*cks as many of us on here have said in the past and been shouted down. David James says why there aren't many black managers and that is becaus there aren't many putting themselves forward to do it. It's as simple as that.

The difficulty is going to be keeping them. As Newcastle, Aston Villa, Sunderland and Everton have shown,it's one thing to develop players, another thing from stopping their heads being turned. Even we we can produce 12 players of premier league standard, th big boys will be sniffing round the best ones straight away.

A post littered with inconsistencies and seeing what you want to see. Cantona was signed for around £1.5m, at a time when the british transfer record was around £3m. Loose change now yes it at the time £1.5m was still a reasonable amount of cash. Not loads, but a fair amount. As for your comments about Man U not being where they are without spending big. Lets look at their treble winning side in 1999. Well yes, they had a great academy, they were fortunate that they manged to bring through in Giggs & Scholes two of the greatest players of our era, Beckham a bit behind them in terms of ability but still a top international in his day and also a number of solid premier league and international players like the Neville's, Butt and Wes Brown. That academy crop produced a standard of player that comes through once in a generation and Man U have been big enough to hold into those players, something no other club, not even one the size of Arsenal have been able to do. what you have conviniently forgotten is it was supplemented with big money signs as well, big money at the time remember. Roy Keane, British record when he signed, Andy Cole, british record when he signed, Dwight Yorke, then Man Us biggest ever signing when he joined, Jaap stam Most expensive defender ever when he joined. Plenty of big money signings there sunshine, before we even come onto the likes of Van Nistelroy, Veron, Ferdinand, Rooney etc But It's all be done by having a good academy hasn't it? So why didn't we tap into these 10,000 extra fans when we were getting into europe and playing in cup finals in 2003? Why wasn't the phone lines jammed and thousands of disappointed faces pressing their nose up against the ticket office windows as the 'sold out' signs went up for games in that period?

If we want a chocice we can get one from Sainsburys