moonraker

Totally overrated, League 2 players score wonder goals, I know on of his ex-schoolteachers he is also thick and vain.

This is my favorite line "Southampton are marching through each summer with little panic or fuss" except a minority on here that is.

"A nation state that can no longer maintain any control of its borders is not worthy of the name. " So that would be all of Europe and Africa and the USA for starters. Is the concept of Nation States doomed and out of date. Maybe this is a good thing as it is a concept designed to ensure power is retained by a privileged elite while the majority are kept in line by using the fear of Johnny foreigner and other patriotic nonsense. It is also the cause of most wars so what would a future without nation states be like, John Lennon had some thoughts on this.

I propose two lists, True Saints and Heroes here is my choices: True Saints - minimum of 200 games and > 10 years service Eric Day Ted Bates Tommy Traynor Terry Paine John Sydeham Mick Channon Nick Holmes Mathew Le Tissier Heroes – Special Achievement e.g. Goals Scored, International Standing, Special Association Charles Miller C B Fry Alf Ramsey Charlie Waymen Ron Davies Lawrie McMenemy Bobby Stokes Alan Ball Danny Wallace Kevin Keegan Peter Shilton Alan Shearer Ali Dia Markus Liebherr

So we were asked what questions would you ask LR, most of the above are complete tosh. Clyne and Toby have left not because we didn't want them but in Clynes Case for bigger Club, more money and his international career, in Tobys case, just in case you missed it HE WAS NOT A SOUTHAMPTON PLAYER, his club shop windowed him and between them they choose Spuds. Get over it, teams change every year, we have a management team that is set up to cope with that, shame so many of you are not set up to support an outstanding, punch above its weight provincial English football club.

If you are not in receipt of Tax credits on which you rely to feed, house and clothe your family its very hard to argue they right should be cut or removed. It is always those that have that want to take away what little those who little have.

I doubt they have much in terms of reserves most companies do not operate in the black, especially with the current low interest rates. They will be reliant on loans to operate the business, so the shareholders and executive management make good from low wages and credit while the government subsidise the low wages. Paying a living (not minimum) wage should be the goal, this would remove the need for tax credits.

That would have been a wonderful outcome, The Portsmouth 'franchise' relocated to a more deserving locatation like Slough, a town with the potential to passionately support a team, that has been denied real football for to long!

While I do not sit in the "there all benefits scroungers in the making camp" this problem requires some true leadership and conviction, not by British Politicians but by the French. This is a French problem not therefore we need to be told how they got all the way across France without being apprehended? If they are in France and Asylum seekers they should seek Asylum there, if they are straight forward refugees then the French should process them in accordance with the (inadequate as they are) EU rules. The Mayor of Calais should look to his own for answers not to us.

Despite recognising his broadcasting and journalistic talent, watching TG and reading his column I still think he is d**head, I also believe that Evans has every chance of making a new version a success despite the Clarkson apologists.

Make a change to the white middle Ccass bigot who got the boot! Evans is a great choice, the programme needed an overhaul and I think might be just the falla to make it work.

Neither blue nor red appeal, far to stagnated, something with a greenish hew, a streak of orange thinly sprinkled with purple and washed down with a nice single malt, just the ticket old chap.

So just to clear, the new fresh site is for liberal, independently minded chaps and this one is for those more traditional less tolerent chaps. Guardian v Mail types you might say.

Well, how does one choose, the fresh all new Sotonian forum, or the tried and tested saintsweb. It is type of dilema that makes life such a struggle, what should I do, I have made an appointment with my doctor and will let you all know ahat he advises.

Its called prioritising, I do not have the answer neither do you, if there is the political will across Europe then assets will be found most likely at the expense of other commitments. EU states have 500 naval ships, not counting Auxiliaries, 20 of these are amphibious assault ships, I am sure a few will be made available for this operation. An alternative is a STUFT, civilian manned to undertake the medical and immigration tasks.

Sorry we are effectively down to a single LPD (not counting ALSL's), but my point was it is not the only ship in the Royal Navy, although it most likely the best we have for this type of operation ex HMS OCEAN.

The Royal Navy has provided vital and life saving support to the refugee crisis in the Meditarean, saving the lives of hundreds of adults and children. (This is the positive thread no ferry references here)

I know the RN is short of ships but we are not yet down to a single LPD, other rations are providing assets. It was particular fortuitous that Bulwark was already in theatre, her capability is ideal for the task. In fact one of the reason the Dutch managed to get their LPD's approved was because of their utility in humanitarian relief operations.

Your ferry service is one of the Core Roles of the Royal Navy, “Providing humanitarian assistance”, if you don’t understand what this means ask some one who does! If you don’t like the RN doing it leave, you could claim conscientious objection. No one wants to do this but it is right and proper, the causes of this disaster are myriad, safety, persecution, economic, political, historic, cultural, corruption to name a few, trying to pin it to single issue is crass. We tried letting them drown for a year, didn’t stop them coming, the fact that so many are willing to risk so much tends to suggest to me that the key motivators are safety and persecution.

Its all scumerr lies I tells ya

I realise the record breaking a number of threads including the legendary (or mythical) Pompey Takeover Saga reports many of the Myths perpetuated by our fishy neighbours but I thought a simpler thread for ease of references would be useful. Ill start with : Southampton Union Corporation Men (SCUM) strike breakers. Perhaps this could be a sticky?

Very sad to see Charles leave us. He was a class act, a conviction politician who truly stood for what he belived in, his anti Iraq war speech is a classic. I met him twice and he was true gent who had no arrogance or sense of supperiority. RIP Charles and my condolences to your family.

That accounts for you good proof reading skills then, what accounts for you're inability to actually debate.

Wrong again I am in the 30 % without a degree, but have worked very hard to achieve a senior position, the odd typo doesn't take anything away from the message, and if all you can contribute is proof reading thats fine by me.

Your so wrong, cosy environment no, a very hard working export earning challenging work place with a dedicated workforce (99% British). I have a son who was in the position you cite and he in the yes camp, he didn't blame migrants he did something about it, took a low paid job and worked hard and moved to a better job, still not well paid but he gets up goes to work and feeds his family. Migrants are in to many instances used as an excuse. I still don't have an answer to my earlier question who will find work for the jobs that we loose when European owned businesses move out.